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I got this theory not because I've tracked....during my days growing up in Hong Kong, streets their are super narrow & super twisty...One rider was killing everyone on a 250 & 400cc....Big liter bikes are consider bulky

 

Yolie only weighs 18lbs more than Ororo (BMW s1000rr vs CBR600 F4i for those that don't know their names). And the new Ducati 1199s Panigale only weighs 415lbs wet. Trust me, bulk has nothing to do with it.

Liter bikes demand throttle control. Simple concept, hard to master. Especially when your arms are being dragged out of their sockets People swear the BMW is twitchy in Race & Slick mode. The reality is most ppl don't have the throttle control necessary to keep a smooth ride. I've seen ppl do it tho.

As for the OP's dilemna, all you can do is make the best argument you can for something smaller... then support him like a real friend in whatever decision he makes. If he goes for a liter, make sure he stays safe.

 

[QUOTE=Kuroshio;1166442]Yolie only weighs 18lbs more than Ororo (BMW s1000rr vs CBR600 F4i for those that don't know their names). And the new Ducati 1199s Panigale only weighs 415lbs wet. Trust me, bulk has nothing to do with it.

Having all those power is good, but what use is it when you cannot even use it. I grew up riding all streets in Hong Kong during the 80's....liter bikes have gone a long way since 92's Tadao Baba's mass centralization fireblade. This technique are now a basic blue print, in current day liter bikes. 20 years later the current firebade 1000RR is roughly 10lbs lighter than the 92....Centralization of mass was how bulky was taken off bigger bikes...but in real time, high traffic cities, narrow road & twists....bigger is definitely not better IMO. Bigger liter bike can flex their muscles on straight away....

Let's put it this way, in regards to this thread. Rather have a rider that completed the MSF course on a liter bike, than having a new rider (that did not complete the MSF course) on a 250cc.....the risk is same.

 

HAHA! just found this video a few days ago and posted it on his facebook

 

I started out by taking the MSF, bought my first cycle ('74 CB360T $300, it came with 3/4 face silver sparkley helmet too! oh boy!). Rode the crap out of it until I got tired of putting money into it. It wasn't the prettiest of things, but it taught me alot regarding maintenance and respect. Then I got my F2.

Agreed: ANY motorcycle can be dangerous in the hands of the inexperienced and ignorant (like giving a 3 yr. old a chainsaw to play with).
Agreed: More HP can increase risk.

Just help him/her pass their MSF course get them to buy some gear and give 'em the 'ol "good game" pat on the bottom.

When they aren't looking, crimp on a fishing weight to their throttle cable....