this should get the pot stirring
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ORIGINAL: CBRclassic
My goodness ...Greg that is putting it so politely mate...
Traffic cops always have been and are still the lowest form of life on the planet .
That is not cop bashing ..that is a statement in regard to a specific job .....that I personally have absolutely no respect for ..
ORIGINAL: chainstretcher
So they acquitted him? I was thinking the whole time the video played, WTF is this guy thinking? Crap all in the lane and cars everywhere and he's doing 118. I dunno, if I did something that stupid I believe they'd put me in jail.
And that's not a bash at the police. Every organization has the occasional idiot.
So they acquitted him? I was thinking the whole time the video played, WTF is this guy thinking? Crap all in the lane and cars everywhere and he's doing 118. I dunno, if I did something that stupid I believe they'd put me in jail.
And that's not a bash at the police. Every organization has the occasional idiot.
Traffic cops always have been and are still the lowest form of life on the planet .
That is not cop bashing ..that is a statement in regard to a specific job .....that I personally have absolutely no respect for ..
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11-07-2008, 04:54 PM
RE: this should get the pot stirring
^ this is my thread so i am allowed to quickly thread jack my own thread....
i just ordered a part from you guys. GREAT people, top notch customer service. i think the guys name i dealt w/ was Cameron. good people, definately got my buisiness!
ok, back to bitching and moaning. notice how Chainstretcher keeps posting here, lol.......he's watching........
i just ordered a part from you guys. GREAT people, top notch customer service. i think the guys name i dealt w/ was Cameron. good people, definately got my buisiness!
ok, back to bitching and moaning
. notice how Chainstretcher keeps posting here, lol.......he's watching........
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11-07-2008, 05:22 PM
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Why do you have no respect for traffic cops? Got one ticket too many? Think that they are just out there to make money? I think all LEOs have a tough job, whatever they do. I got popped last year for a "rolling stop" at a stop sign, cost me $170. Yes I was not happy, but I got caught so I paid up. It was a State Trooper and believe it or not, I shook his hand and thanked him for doing his job, much to his surprise and pleasure. Six months later, the same trooper stopped a suspicious car and ran the number; stolen! He walked back to arrest the guy (6' 4", 400lbs.) and was shot, then as he lay on the ground the guy finished him off. He was 21 years old, newly married with a premature baby in hospital. Last week his infant son died in hospital after surgery. So this particular cop ****ed up and got away with it. **** happens. It isn't right and it isn't fair, but it is life. To condemn every cop that works traffic is BS. They are out there trying to keep ********* off the road, whether speeding, stunting, drink driving, whatever. They don't make the laws, they enforce them. You are always going to get arseholes in every job, don't slag everybody doing that job coz you don't like it!
ORIGINAL: CBRclassic
My goodness ...Greg that is putting it so politely mate...
Traffic cops always have been and are still the lowest form of life on the planet .
That is not cop bashing ..that is a statement in regard to a specific job .....that I personally have absolutely no respect for ..
ORIGINAL: chainstretcher
So they acquitted him? I was thinking the whole time the video played, WTF is this guy thinking? Crap all in the lane and cars everywhere and he's doing 118. I dunno, if I did something that stupid I believe they'd put me in jail.
And that's not a bash at the police. Every organization has the occasional idiot.
So they acquitted him? I was thinking the whole time the video played, WTF is this guy thinking? Crap all in the lane and cars everywhere and he's doing 118. I dunno, if I did something that stupid I believe they'd put me in jail.
And that's not a bash at the police. Every organization has the occasional idiot.
Traffic cops always have been and are still the lowest form of life on the planet .
That is not cop bashing ..that is a statement in regard to a specific job .....that I personally have absolutely no respect for ..
but...
Ok... my simple answer...( which apples to quite a few careers actually...)
Everyone has heard the line ...I joined up to do some good for my community...
BULL ****!!!!! ....to be a cop in the first place you have to want the power and the control...there is no getting around that as a fact !!
People without the urge for power and the control do not make it through the training , let alone get to be one ...
Only my personal view ok ...
THIS APPLIES TO TRAFFIC COPS ONLY.........I am knot an anarchist.
Hypothetically: - I am 20 years old ...I want a job ... I think to myself , what would I like to do ..
I think to myself....I know ...I will become a cop and go help my fellow man? ....and then I will have to book chase and may be kill people which will make them miserable and put some in positions of hardship once I have dealt with them ...
For that reason alone ..I would and could never be a cop...
If you are going to repeat the " they only do their job or enforce the laws .....please ..spare me ...that's is and was not my point ..
I do not like careers where the people in them cause misery to others ... for any reason..
I could not be allot of things because of this one fact .... and I am happy I am like I am..
I do not like to cause misery to others ...
BTW..
Ive known guys that fallen off roofs and have died .. and become crippled..
They get very little or no mention to anyone but close family ...but a cop gets shot....everyone gets all bent outta shape..
So just because they get killed doing their jobs is not an argument to justify or glorify what they do ...
P/S
I know all the other reasons that we need cops ..and I think most that are not in traffic control are doing a great service most of the time ... and I commend them ...
I know I will get **** hung on me for this ...as bashing , but it is not meant to be ....
I just do not like the job that traffic cops do....
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wait wait wait...i just realized this guy said "cops deal with things that some of you wouldn't understand"...i haven't been but trying being a marine. deployed....seeing all types of **** thats not even allowed to hit the media because of how horrid it is...oh wait...or just go talk to someone in the ghetto who's whole family was murdered because someone in their house was selling drugs and made the wrong enemy...it's people that think like you that let these idiot cops do almost anything they want...UGH..i'm leaving this thread before i get "ignant"
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Yer ..ok ...poor cops ..they suffer too , just like many do in their jobs... they chose their job ...they were not ordered to join up to the force....
so this gives traffic cops in general the right UNDER NEAR ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ! to chase people at those speeds on public roads ??
Not friggin likely ..!!!!!!
He should have gone to jail for manslaughter , wreckless driving , driving in a manner dangerous to the public ....and any other bloody thing that is appropriate for that type of idiotic behavior...
Like Stretch said ..
If it was me ..I would not see the real world for about 10 years or more ..
and he goes free ?? !!!! thats bull ****tttt !!
No excuse for the rider at all...
but ...
Poor cops ??? yer sure !!!
Yer ..ok ...poor cops ..they suffer too , just like many do in their jobs... they chose their job ...they were not ordered to join up to the force....
so this gives traffic cops in general the right UNDER NEAR ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ! to chase people at those speeds on public roads ??
Not friggin likely ..!!!!!!
He should have gone to jail for manslaughter , wreckless driving , driving in a manner dangerous to the public ....and any other bloody thing that is appropriate for that type of idiotic behavior...
Like Stretch said ..
If it was me ..I would not see the real world for about 10 years or more ..
and he goes free ?? !!!! thats bull ****tttt !!
No excuse for the rider at all...
but ...
Poor cops ??? yer sure !!!
Did he make a poor judgement based on the traffic conditions? Yes. Was he wrong in violating department procedures by not calling the chase out and not using his lights/siren? Absolutely. He used poor judgement for sure, sometimes you have to realizeyou're doing more harm than just letting that one person get away.
Please continue...
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11-10-2008, 12:32 AM
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Meh, I'll just address this real quick. You seem to forget, he wasn't just riding on the shoulder at 120 for the fun of it, he was attempting to catch up to someone running from him/breaking the law. I hope you have a good reason to be driving at 120 on the shoulder
I could not give a dam if he was chasing a murderer ..
No one should drive at those speeds on the roads let alone in traffic ...!!!! ever!!!! for any reason....
Traffic cops thinks they are kings of the bloody road ... and I think he and any other cop or individual that goes and does that with those consequences should be locked up full stop...
If I ever get caught riding at those speeds after having killed someone ...I will expect to go straight to bloody jail mate.. for a long time!!
No amount of "he was doing his job" is worth **** mate ..
They can and do catch people other ways , other that speeding like that to try to run them off the road..
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I would like to add my .02 here are just my feeling,
1) i agree that the cop should have been held responsible for his actions because he wasn't doing what the department said he should. radios were made for a reason and to date there is nothing on wheels or even flys that can out run that.
2) the guy who was running well that is easy he shouldn't have been running and should be held responsible just as the cop, and it is sad to say but those riders that run are the reason why we have a bad rep.
i do respect cops to and extent i got a ticket for doing 84 in a 55. but i pulled over and because i did what the cop said the court dropped the ticket down 20 MPH and i got off with 1 point. but if i would have ran well i wouldn't be riding or driving for that matter. they were both in the wrong and both could have done things differently to prevent all of this. i know it is neutral standing on this topic it is just how i feel.
to the Florida thing well i think and this goes for the 50 states they should just enforce the laws that are out there. making new rules is not going to stop anything. if anything it will make this worse then it already is.
my .02
1) i agree that the cop should have been held responsible for his actions because he wasn't doing what the department said he should. radios were made for a reason and to date there is nothing on wheels or even flys that can out run that.
2) the guy who was running well that is easy he shouldn't have been running and should be held responsible just as the cop, and it is sad to say but those riders that run are the reason why we have a bad rep.
i do respect cops to and extent i got a ticket for doing 84 in a 55. but i pulled over and because i did what the cop said the court dropped the ticket down 20 MPH and i got off with 1 point. but if i would have ran well i wouldn't be riding or driving for that matter. they were both in the wrong and both could have done things differently to prevent all of this. i know it is neutral standing on this topic it is just how i feel.
to the Florida thing well i think and this goes for the 50 states they should just enforce the laws that are out there. making new rules is not going to stop anything. if anything it will make this worse then it already is.
my .02