Open carry in Texas?
 

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yup they are talking about it.

I think about 75% of states have an open carry and here in Texas we only have a concealed carry. I dont understand why we dont have both..

I mean.. I can carry a gun and hide it on my person. but i'm not allowed to carry a gun and show it openly on my hip. that makes no cents to me.

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im thinking about getting my concealment permit in florida, if for any reason its because i fear that obama my take that right away and i would perfer to be grandfathered in.does this article mean that gun laws in texas will ease. btw-i would love to work in my town with a glock straped in open sight,our crime would slow big time.

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Open carry vs concealed carry is an on-going argument. WAshington is an open carry state. I experienced a few problems while there. The law states you can leagally carry a holstered weapon in plain sight. The law also says that it is illegal to cause disruption orto cause alarm. So, comming home from the woods, I was carrying (out there I'm just as worried about the 4 legged dangers as well as the two legged ones with all the methheads out there) Anyways, stop in a little corner store to get some gatorade and something to snack on. A few minutes later as I am getting in my truck, a cop car pulls in behind me, draws his weapon but keeps it at his side and approaches me asking to see my hands. I comply and ask him what the problem is. He sees me in hunting gear, a cased rifle in the front seat and some varmint calls on the dash, and calms down. He tells me that a lady called to report a man with a gun in the store. Now, I was totaly legal in what I was doing, but others were alarmed and so on, so one could see where I was causing a scene. Situations like this happen all the time in open carry states where it is not widely known that one can legally open carry. So, through the publics ignorance, you very can and sometimes will cause panic and such cause some liberal soccer mom freaks out and yells "GUN!" Many of you know I am super pro 2d, I think US citizenship and no violent crimes/felonies commited should be enough of a permit for anyone to carry.

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We used to have to check our guns at the door in bars in Memphis when I was younger.

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Seems like carrying your gun out in the open would cause more harm than good.
I don't hunt at all, and hell I've never even shot a gun so my view on this might be a lot different than most peoples. But what would be the point in carrying your gun out in the open anyway? The way I see it, it just attracts more attention. Hell if I saw someone waltz into a place with a gun strapped to their side, I would be uneasy about it. It also makes the job for cops harder. If someone calls 911 saying someone has a gun in the open, how are the cops going to approach the situation? Is the SWAT team going to be called just because some hunter wanted to wear a gun on his hip? As I said, seems like it would do more harm then good.

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I support open carry laws. Just think some POS is scouting for a car to steal and he picks yours. He sits there and waits for you so he can jack the car and maybe your wallet while he's at it. You walk up with a .45 on your belt and guaranteed that fool will notmess with you! I usually carry my Kimber .45 under the seat of my truck but sometimes I carry it in a holster on my belt. It's kinda funny too because alot of people will stop and get the hell out of my way when they see it. Plus I do have a CWP but open carry is legal in Idaho.

I've been at the gas station or a corner store and have had cops see that i'm carrying and never has one said a word to me about it.

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911: What is the emergency
caller: Theres a man with a gun in thge store
911: What is the man doing?
caller: um, walking around, shopping.....
911: is he being threatening, causing harm?
caller: um....no, but its on his hip...



See how that goes? Proponants of OC say open carry is a deterence. I think if I was a criminal looking to make a buck at a quickie mart and walked in to see some guy strapped, I'd think twice as you just greatly increased the odds of murdering someone or getting shot, both really bad as opposed to a simple robbery. Oponants of OC say it makes you a target, or your gun will get turned on you all that stuff. OC has its merits, draw presentation is a bazillion times faster, and I believe it has merit in deterance. Theres pros and cons of it, but the meat and potatoes of it all is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a law abiding citizen being armed. Criminals don't follows rules or laws. Why is it that every effort to deter crime usually has no impact on criminals?

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i work in a horrible hood. as a white guy in the wrong side of the tracks, i am constantly tested, im not a young punk lookin for trouble, but let me say the distance between the truck and my hip is a long differance. the blue steel on my side would most definatly show that i am not an easy target. some people who live in a gated world might think different , but as for me i would pack immediately. this thinking is from livin suburb,workin ccity.

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Because the morons who make the laws are too retarded to understand that they are only affecting the law abiding citizen.

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I'm not so sure about open carry yet, for myself. I have a CCW permit and carry daily. While open carry "may" deter some punks from trying dumb ****, other more brazen punks may see it as an opportunity. I personally like the element of surprise, only let your attacker set it when your ready to let her smoke.

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well said cracker

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Some, like you, see it that way. I can very well see that point, I can't say I disagree with it at all, but I see the other side as well. I'm all for people taking responsibility for their safety, I'd rather see a gun in the hand of a victim as opposed to a phone dialing 911.

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Ohio is open carry and in my whole life I have only seen 2 people carry pistols openly who were not cops. Most people just dont see the need. I think it should be your right but I think concealed is safer and a better deterant. During hunting season me and a buddy carried shotguns right into a store to buy snacks, Nobody said a thing, we were in hunting gear and honestly, in southern Ohio, 99% of the people either hunt or their family hunts, guns are a way of life....... I feel safer believing someone in the crowd has one,than knowing its illegal for anyone to have one.......

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How about legistration concentrate more on important things like ****ing cell phone use in cars. I've never heard of someone dying cause they didnt see some one's weapon on the outside of their jacket.

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And as far as a concealed weapon being a deterent, are you friggin kidding me? I'd rather a criminal see my gun first and decide to go pick on easier prey then wait till they are in my face with whatever weapon they have so I can hopefully have the time and opportunity to pull out a concealed weapon.

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Only wackos want to walk around with a gun on their hip[&:]its not the old west anymore..

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Let me guess, you're a democrat and you voted for Obama. Am I right?

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i just read the first couple posts, but in phoenix,az seeing someone with a gun on their waste is like seeing a guy with a watch. it was crazy when i first got there but after i lived there for a bit it was just common. i had been to blockbuster video, 7 eleven and even grocery stores with a glock n my side with no alarmed patrons. when i moved from phoenix i felt it was weird that no one was carrying a gun. and by the way google phoenix's crime rate. people are waaaaaay less likely to fool around when it is just expected that everyone has a gun.

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I agree. I'm a gun owner and I dont see why people need to show off their guns. Just cause you have a gun doesnt mean someone wont kill you if they want to.


Ti put that political **** up.

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Iprobably own more guns then you. I just don't have a little mans attitude that I need to carry a weapon in public to act like IM important. Maybe I live a normal life and Im not putting myself in areas that require me to be packing a gun. Now if I were in a position that required me to carry a gun, I would most likely have a CWP so I wouldn't be bringing unwanted attention to myself.

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Keep your politics to yourself. Forum rules about that stuff.

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This guy wants open carry laws (stole from X's post)

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Im not really against it just see no real reason for it.

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Nah, dog. You be haten on us wantin 2 carry my 9 on my hip. Brotha dont know when a cap gonna be busted yo azz. Got repzent da dirty south.

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So by you carrying in the open your not deterring crime either, your just pushing it off on someone else. Even if everyone in america carried there would still be crime, and probably a lot more murders. I will not however infringe on your right to arm yourself and protect yourself, thats your business.

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The only time I'd want to carry my 9 is on bike trips. I just dont see the need to carry while going down the street to walmart. But I know, what if terrorist attacked THAT walmart at THAT moment I was there. Well, **** happens.


I dont even load my gun, I pistol whip bitches or use slappers only but play as oddjob.

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I think the reason gun advocates, want to have an open carry law. Is that it forces guns to be a part of everyday life in society. That people will be forced to see them, and except with them on a daily basis.
Maybe it's because im Candain, But I think it's kinda sad, when you don't have the freedom to walk around safe without having to be armed to the teeth. IMO

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What are you talking about? Its like wearing a watch, blends right in. :D

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When i do carry it is mostly concealed, sholder holster, under the seat of my truck or in my tank bag. But sometimes I just feel llike exercising my 2nd ammendment rights. Has nothing to do with "little man attitude" as some eloquent member puts it. The second ammendment is a very big deal to me. There has been more than one occasion where the mere visual presence of my .45 has de-escalated a situation from becoming something much worse. I support open carry very much but it's not like I walk around town with a gun on my belt all the time, but i'll be god damned if the state or the feds are gonna tell me I can't!

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So if you moved to a state that didn't allow open carry you'd do it anyway?

I find that hard to believe.

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I am a law abiding citizen and i'm grateful that my state laws do not infringe on my 2nd ammendment constitutional rights. People who commit crimes with guns deserve what they have coming, but i'm disgusted when I see people stripped of thier rights because of anti gun legislation.

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I'm sure folks at shopping malls didn't expect the need to be armed either, or 32 students going to school one day. Those were all gun free zones, you know, those "safe places" I wonder how it might have turned out if one person was carrying that place and time, how things might have turned out. Sure as **** couldn't have gotten any worse. Why don't we ever hear about shoot-outs at a gun show? I mean, all those guns and gun nuts in one place, should be a blood bath but alas, it is not. Deciding to OC or CC isn't about little man syndrome, its about being prepared because there are turds out there who care nothing of your safety or well being. Look up stats on how many crimes are prevented with firearms each year.Charles Whitman was delayed in his attacks becuae students went to their cars and retrieved arms. George Hennard killed scores of people in a lubys cafeteria in Texas, one of the patrons, had left her pistol in her car because that was texas law at the time, little good it didin her caras both of her parents were shot to death in front of her, but hey, SHE followed the law right...Amazing. I really don't see all the hub-bub over weapons, its a machined block of steel and figured wood, an inanimate object, a tool, we'll argue about them till the end of time but pay no mind to the people that use them wrongly, I guess it's easier to blame a chunk of metal than to identify athe realproblem.

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You also need to consider the mental state of the person carrying. Doesnt take much for a person to snap.


Just like motorcycle owners. Just cause you got the license doesnt make you good at it or should have it.

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Exactly!!!!! Thank you! Unfortunately the stats on crimes prevented from people with guns just are not there because most simply are not reported. As far as the terrorists hitting that walmart comment...seriously???? People carry guns to protect themselves from criminals. Unless you live in the middle east or you are fighting in Iraq. Last time I checked there aren't any walmarts in Iraq.

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Im sure i will get bashed to hell for this but i dont really care.

Firearm crimes commited in the usa for 2005: 400,000
Firearm crimes commited in the UK for 2005: 24,094

Now the usa does have 5x the population of the UK, but even if you take the UK numbers x5 its still nearly a 1/4 of what it is here. If you go straight to murders in the usa its 16,000 a year to the uk*s 1,100.

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I was thinking of this an hour ago.

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At the moment I live in NM. Which is an open carry state, I also have my concealed carry. I pretty much never carry, but I figure I better exercise my "rights" or else they will take them away.

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Every time I have seen someone with a gun on their hip in open view, my mind goes straight to 'cop, fed etc'. I never really gave it a second thought except to try and see what he was carrying.

For the masses though, doesnt seem like a good idea. But like the opions on here, some would not choose to carry open.....like myself.

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Just because you have a gun to protect yourself. Can you actually fire it to kill someone? I don't think the avg person can pull the trigger. From what I understand it takes training and experiance, to actually commit to firing on someone.