Hey all, im pretty much new here so this may be a long post . The subject may be different than what you are probably thinking. It is me against my parents in letting me get a bike. I need some advice, im 17 (18 in 2 months) and plan on going to college for the next 2-4 years locally.

For the past 3 months i have really been looking at getting a bike (my dream would be a used 02-05 f4i or rr) as by the time im 18 i should be able to afford the bike and insurance (i would have to pay for everything and i have been working since i was 16) My friend is also looking into getting a bike and his parents are more leniate. We both plan on taking the MSF and taking all of the proper safety steps and everything. With most things, for my age i consider myself more mature, so i know im not going to do stupid **** on a bike that will get me hurt. I have mentioned about once im 18, and pay for everything, and take the MSF, if i could purchase a bike to my parents, and the only response i can get out of them is "not as long as ur living under our roof" "ur not buying a death machine" yes im quoting them directly, unfortunately.

I am very determined to get a bike, as i feel i am mature and responsible enough to handle one, so whether i have to hide the bike at a friends house (parents would see mail from insurance so it would only be a matter of time) or find a place to live i would probably do it, but id rather get at least an "okay" from them. So, how should i go about persuading them to let me purchase one? Any ideas? My dad has a honda shadow and has been riding it for about 4 years and apparently for my mom thats already "too much for her to worry about" and my dad has "40 years of road experience and i dont" so i cant use that as an arguement. Help me cbrforum! i want to become an actual member here!

-DJ
SoCal

 

this is probbly not an "Off-topic" topic haha.. but show your parents this site http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/bike.htm and you will be good HAHA..

ok enough of the ****s and giggles, na man - i know your position, my parents are doing the same **** to me (i'm almost 21, but i live with my parents because they own their own business and i work for them.. in both states, Vegas and Idaho) well they aint giving me a second chance to prove myself..

ok, well you are 17 - it's kind-of hard for a non-biker family to let there son/daughter ride a bike under the age of 18. only parents that revolve around biking really lets their kids start at a young age.

So pretty much your on your own (from your parents).. so get some price quotes on 02-05's, just hope you dont have a bad record like me. Just do some research behind their backs. Then whenever the courses start up, call MSF and take the class. Probbly after you completed the class just tell them you are really dedicated about motorcycles and really want their approval..

if tough to deal with parents, i had to wait till 18 for my tattoo because they thought i would blame them - but i never had yet, and i do get those bull**** lines from my mom "not as long as ur living under our roof", but pretty much if they dont want to work "with" you, then just go behind their backs. seeing how you are going to college, maybe if you get a dorm and then dont have to worry about getting kicked out of the house from buying a bullet bike..

But seriously, take it easy man.. if you do get a bike, dont f*** up your chance - or you will be sitting on the side-lines like me for awhile.. buy some frame sliders, BUY PROTECTION, and just be aware.

but at 18, your free from the chains actually - so you will have the money but all you want is the support..

actually you know what i did for the first bike, i kind-of went for my dad.. asked if he ever had a bike experience - which got some great success, (got my parents to fight in bed intill my dad won haha) but find their weak spot, someone might break.. and if not, Show that your dedicated about bikes and safety (taking the MSF class and getting your permit) this might let your parents take you seriously about buying one..

Also nudge a bit, dont **** them off - but be like "hey dad, i'm going to go check out the bike dealership today? want to come?" - maybe you can get him on a few bikes - but every week or so, just talk about motorcycles a couple of times..

the only thing is, if you live in S. Cali (dont know if SoCal is that or not) but that is a crazy state, and your chances are way higher of getting into a wreck.

well good luck man (sorry for the screwy responsed.. dont really want to correct it haha)

 

Thanks for the reply, sorry didnt know where to put the thread. Im going to be going to college locally, so moving into a dorm would almost be a waste of money (although i would absolutely love the freedom as i am not one who likes to obey authority figures, thank god high school is almost over!) But i definately not going to skimp on any protective gear for me especially, and my bike. My friend and I want to go to the track just to become more familiar around the bikes and hopefully take the MSF soon. I am going to see if they will sign me up before im 18 (need a parent present to signup if im not 18). I very highly doubt they will sign me up which is why ill probably have to do everything when im 18, and im basically asking for some help on how to go about that. i have been serious with both of them about safey and the MSF and everything but they always say "not while ur living here" and "death machine".

I will probably try to start becoming more involved with going to places with bikes and ask my parents (mainly my dad) if he wants to come. Anyone have any suggestions before or after i become 18 on my current situation?

Ya SoCal, southern cali. I live in Diamond Bar (near chino, brea, walnut, fullerton, ect.) and there are a lot of crazy drivers which is soemthing that my mom told me "im not worried about you, but the drivers around you" and thats a chance im willing to take for something that i hope to end up loving.

Thanks all. Keep the posts coming

 

Well ask your mom or dad to consent you to take MSF.. where is the harm in that? you going to be in a parking lot with instructors and learnig how to ride (****, better then how i learned.. i bought a bike and taught myself.. i swear to god, i almost destroyed mysefl and that bike from learning) and maybe the instructors will talk to your dad and mom about really thinking about it.. because they will have more statsitics on accidents and everything then most people on the forums.

ok she is right, i mean come on?!? you know how mobile a bike is? and how much room and freedom you have (plus NO BLIND SPOTS), it's not going to be the bikers that are dangerous - it's the other vehicles (just like in the ocean, the smaller fish are the ones that have to be paranoid)
you will get cut-off, short stopped, people cutting infront of you, people riding your ***, (the people that never rode a bike, most likely HATE BIKERS - because they think all bikers drive like a-holes).. so she is right it's the others around you, but MSF teaches you to stand out infront of people, know when to get out of a situation that might resolve and always look 10 steps ahead of you..

i did just fine self teaching myself (it was a stunt accident, my avatar) but after MSF and some traffic practice - believe me, you come to terms real quick.

And with people complaining about bikes being so dangerous and killers? that idoits like me doing stupid sh*t they shouldn't be doing, or they werent paying attention (ok, i will give some accidents are freak of natures or could be the other person's fault.. but you always have time to get out of sticky situations) and if everyone wanted to be safe, they would re-vamp all compacts and bikes and just have SUV's on the road - oh wait, didnt a SUV get killed by a semi? i guess we arent ever safe really..

Sorry, just getting out some stress - i know you have the same Point of view as me, so dont know why im preaching

Also, another option would be taking your dad and mom to the track- might be a bad idea because of racing, but at Las vegas Motor Speedway i check out the bikes in the pits just for the hell of it, some of the owners (if you can praise them) will let you sit on their bike..



one last thing, Get your damn people out of my state - damn cali's ruined vegas hahah jking (well not, but dont mean it to ya)

 

I had the same problem with my parents. But, i did alot around the house, so, when she said "You're moving out if you want one of othose things!" So, I tell her, "OK". Then, she's telling me, "No, you can have one here." Either way, I went out and bought it.

Tylor

 

yeah my dad is like my best friend (he has problems when i'm at the other house in Vegas or Idaho) so he always takes my side..

But i just had a couple more things for ya

If/when you get a bike First thing you get is

Frame Sliders(if you take the MSF class when you get your own bike, no worries about dropping the bike), golves (the best golves, because 90% of people put their hands down when they fall before anything else) some leathers (or steel jeans if you dont like the Hell's angel look) and leather or mesh jacket (leather will save your skin, where mesh will save major parts) I'm not a boot's guy, but it would be a nice idea to get (shoe laces can get in the way of the pegs)


night, i'm going to bed haha

 

Damn! When I was 16, my dad picked up the motorcycle handbook from the DMV for me because he knew my interest in it. I didn't get my bike and license until earlier this year, at 26.
If I were you, I'd chum it up with your dad since he already rides. Mom seems to be the driving force on the NO side.

 

lol my dad was on me until i took my *** to the dmv to get my endorsement. he got so excited at the time i started asking him to teach me to ride his cb750. my mom was always kinda iffy, but what can you do.. you know?

 

My parents always said that I had to wait until I was 18, but my dad has been riding for more years than I could tell you. About 2 months before I turned 18 I went to the local honda dealer and was checking out the new bikes and looking at the used ones and the sales person, who a friend of my dads, was going to hook me up with a good deal. He made up all of the paper work that day, but I never went back. Then last fall I decided that I really wanted to get one and I talked to the wifey and she didn't like the idea, but I just basically told her it was too bad and I bought one. I can honestly say it was my best investment I have ever made (well except for the fact that I bought a Kawi). I'll be 22 in a few months and currently ride a 2002 F4i which I bought this January and I absolutely love this bike and I only have put about 600 miles on it. I'm a little bigger than most 600 riders at about 6' 215 lbs, but I don't feel that I'm experienced enough to step up to a 1000 and probably won't for a few years. The 600 is plenty fast and really nimble but lacks the torque, but I really don't have a problem with it. Just invest in some good gear and wear it. I always laugh when I meet the guy riding with his $600 Shoei helmet stuck on the back of the bike while hes wearing the sunglasses to protect his head.

But just talk to your parents and let them know that you are serious about getting one and suck up a little and do more around the house than you usually would and let them know that you are going to take the msf and have them come in and talk to the insturctors and after the msf mabye try to get into a riding class at one of the local tracks to build some confidence and inprove your skills some more, this is something that I would really like to do. But good luck and take it easy.

-Jesse-

 

growing up my parents always knew i wanted a bike, they always told me NO. not as long as i lived under their roof. so of course after i moved out and got some cash, i got a bike. hell my mom even cosigned on the loan to get a lower rate. so you never know which way they will go. they try to se the im the parent kind of thing when you are younger, then they start thinking, well if im an *** they might never talk to me again, and they'll just buy one anyway, so the point being, they will come around, especially with your dad riding. oh well, good luck, be safe.

PS: another cycle name my aunt uses: MURDERCYCLE