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Old 03-23-2012 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Kuroshio
The way I look at dogs are the same way I look at guns:
  • I never trust a gun that's not mine
  • I never trust a gun in someone else's hand
  • I never blame the gun for the tragedy that happens
It's always the owner.
I hope that one day you come to recognize that there's a difference between an inanimate object and a live animal.
 
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Old 03-23-2012 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MZ5
The stereotypes aren't exactly wrong, and the data is definitely not wrong.
And... here is where I stopped reading.

Kuro brought up a lot of good points regarding the statistics. Did you also know that 86.4% of them are made up on the spot?
 

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Old 03-23-2012 | 12:16 PM
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I can post additional links to verified statistics regarding 2011 and other recent fatal dog attacks but I can see it would be pointless if people already have their minds made up, regardless of anything else.
 
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Old 03-24-2012 | 09:24 AM
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MZ5 I'm not trying to be rude but what your two dogs did is my exact point of not bad dogs just bad owners. If you could blatantly see the dogs fighting for attention and they had already shown signs of it. One of them should have been removed completely so that you don't become a "statistic". That was not the dogs fault at all, but they both paid for it. These dog debates always go around and around but until u have owned one and seen it for yourself don't read other weak willed people's "review". I'll say it until I die no bad dogs just bad owners.
 
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Old 03-24-2012 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadiJeff
I can post additional links to verified statistics regarding 2011 and other recent fatal dog attacks but I can see it would be pointless if people already have their minds made up, regardless of anything else.
No you can't. Those statistics are junk. How many dogs bite vs how many are reported vs how many actually do damage. How many are actual Pit Bulls? And by PitBull i'll go ahead and include SBTs and AmBullys with APBT.

If a Pomeranian bites 1,000 people maybe two will get reported. if a "Pit Bull looking" dog bites 10 i'm sure 10 get reported. And it probably wasn't even an American Pit Bull Terrier.

Do you remember that story in the news, maybe a year ago where a rampaging "Pit Bull" boarded a bus and attacked some guy? It was an American Bull Dog. Of course you see nothing but "Pit Bull Attack" all over the news. Like I said, anything with big head and muscles is a "Pitbull."

Both - American Bulldogs.






Besides the breed was never raised for Human aggression, as part of their bull baiting and later unfortunately, dog fighting heritage, human aggression was an extremely undesirable trait as they had to be handled during "fights." dogs that showed this trait were culled.



Ignorance is more dangerous than these dogs. I'll tell you that.
 
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Old 03-24-2012 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MZ5
I hope that one day you come to recognize that there's a difference between an inanimate object and a live animal.
There are more similarities than you acknowledge.

A mistreated gun, like a mistreated dog, is a potential danger to anyone that handles them. I take care of both my gun and my dogs. I know they are in excellent condition. My gun doesn't have any mechanical defects. And my dogs are medically sound, physically fit and well taken care of. A mistreated gun can misfire, accidentally fire, jam or a number of things. A mistreated dog can suffer from medical conditions, physical conditions or mental stresses (regular beatings, poor socialization, lonliness) that can affect its temperament and likelihood to attack.

When I walk my dogs, I have complete control of their leashes and therefore what they can do. They cannot get to the child / woman / other dog unless I allow it. When my gun is in my hand, I control whether or not it can fire. I load a round in the chamber, determine if the safety is on or off, whether my finger is on the trigger or not. In both cases, I control the amount of danger both mt dogs and my gun can represent. The same cannot be said of other owners of either.

And finally, if something happens I am ultimately responsible for it. I am the owner of both my gun and my dogs. If either harms someone, it is because I allowed it to happen.

Guns and dogs are far more similar than you're allowing. Because the owner controls how dangerous they are.
 
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Old 04-02-2012 | 12:44 PM
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Here's Samson, the dog we currently have. He's #9 on the list of most dangerous dogs. I think they should make an exception in his case.

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Old 04-02-2012 | 08:33 PM
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Yes well, according to your statistics he's a time bomb waiting to go off!

hahah great looking guy though - awesome ears. Looks like a big boy, how much is he weighing in at?

A Virginia Beach Pit Bull Is Being Called A Hero - YouTube
 
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