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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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That's definitely a 954 tail. And if you look closely, you can see the 954 subframe on there too. It looks like they modified the frame so that the 954 subframe you bolt on. It looks nice on there, but if you want a 600rr tail, Look for one on ebay or in your local classifieds. Since you have a 954 subframe on there already, I would look for 954 fighters online where people have put 600rr tails onto them (there are quite a few). That'll be the easiest way to adapt a 600rr tail onto your bike if that's the direction you want to go.


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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Conrice
That's definitely a 954 tail. It looks nice on there, but if you want a 600rr tail, Look for one on ebay.
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Thanks, Looks wise there's not much in the difference so I'd prolly go with what was supposed to be there. On a scale of 1-10 how certain are you? I took some more pictures there for more detail.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Guyver0_o
I'm still mulling over completely restoring it to factory or leaving it custom. It would be easier for sure finding parts if it was a complete f3. You wouldn't believe how long it took me to find out what the tail was actually from I like the 600rr tails more so than the stock ones so I'll probably leave it. I'm thinking about welding up an under tail exhaust. Think it'll look sweet!
Hate to burst your bubble, but going back to factory is pretty much out of the question except for a frame swap. The PO cut off the frame and welded a tab so that the 954 subframe could bolt on.

Honestly, as long as the welding is good - it's going to be better than factory because that aluminum subframe is a ton lighter than your stock steel subframe was.



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I dont understand why people ruin good machines the way the previous guy did and I did indeed shell out on front and back tyres since

Any of you guys know where to get a 600rr tail online? I'm trying to find the under fairing plastics with the lock in it for the seat too, thats the next job.
954 doesn't have any undertail really per say - it's all in the battery box/fender thing. As far as the lock, there probably isn't one. The F3 didn't have a pillion compartment. If he's using an F3 lockset, it'll only have ignition and fuel tank.

If you could find a lockset from a 954 from America (because we don't have the HISS like you do in Europe), you could use it on your bike so that you could have a tail that locks.


It's not ruined - it's just extremely modified. If the welding on the frame is good, I wouldn't worry about it - you can nicely fix and sort everything else. It looks like it was done right (the guy PC'd everything to prevent rust). Take some pics of the frame where he welded on the bracket so that the 954 subframe could mount up.
 

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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Guyver0_o
On a scale of 1-10 how certain are you? I took some more pictures there for more detail.
10. There's no doubt about the tail. It's definitely a 954 tail. As far as the subframe - it's definitely a 954 one as well. I can't completely tell if it's been modified at all because I can't see all of it. But I can tell by the plates where it mounts to the frame and the distance between the plates and the support beam that it is a 954 subframe as well.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 11:48 AM
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Here's a pic of a 954 subframe, you should be able to see how its the exact same kind as yours




And then here's a pic of a 954 tail



 
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Conrice
Hate to burst your bubble, but going back to factory is pretty much out of the question except for a frame swap.
I got the guts of another f3 for 150 euros

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10. There's no doubt about the tail. It's definitely a 954 tail. As far as the subframe - it's definitely a 954 one as well. I can't completely tell if it's been modified at all because I can't see all of it. But I can tell by the plates where it mounts to the frame and the distance between the plates and the support beam that it is a 954 subframe as well.
I think you're bang on, fair play. They guy I got to fit the tires said it was 100% a 600rr tail...very professional!

Wait till you see where and how the rectifier is mounted
 
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Guyver0_o
I got the guts of another f3 for 150 euros



I think you're bang on, fair play. They guy I got to fit the tires said it was 100% a 600rr tail...very professional!

Wait till you see where and how the rectifier is mounted
So you have that frame too? That's a good buy for 150 euros! Well, you wont have to worry about the R/R not getting air flow, just make sure it doesn't burn your leg if it gets hot.

I was just stating that the guy cut the subframe for your bike and welded on plates - so it basically wouldn't be able to modified back to factory, you'd have to frame swap it. If you don't like that tail/subframe, or you worry about it's strength, it wouldn't be hard to frame swap your bike.

But, you could clean up the modified bike. Most of it is just wiring, and adapting the CDI and everything to where it'll fit with the modified subframe. (and grabbing the better stuff off that second bike - like the air box).

Does it run right? There's an air solenoid that is actually in the F3 gauges... Did they bypass it somehow on your modified bike?
 

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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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So you have that frame too? That's a good buy for 150 euros! Well, you wont have to worry about the R/R not getting air flow, just make sure it doesn't burn your leg if it gets hot.

I was just stating that the guy cut the subframe for your bike and welded on plates - so it basically wouldn't be able to modified back to factory, you'd have to frame swap it. If you don't like that tail/subframe, or you worry about it's strength, it wouldn't be hard to frame swap your bike.

But, you could clean up the modified bike. Most of it is just wiring, and adapting the CDI and everything to where it'll fit with the modified subframe. (and grabbing the better stuff off that second bike - like the air box).

Does it run right? There's an air solenoid that is actually in the F3 gauges... Did they bypass it somehow on your modified bike?
Hard to see it overheating there, the mount it's bolted on can only be described as a butchered car radio to dissipate the heat or something. I'm sure there is a mounting place somewhere on the subframe. I've just lumped the CDI under the seat, there's a little cubby hole there that it fits in. It was a pain when I changed the wiring loom to figure out where it all goes. I'd say they bypassed the solenoid somehow as they had custom gauges on it. I got the stock dash when I did the loom so it's all back to factory now. I've been out on it several times and there isn't any glaring problems engine wise, I got ~100 mph easy enough with no flat spots so it's good to go as it is but its ugly still.

From a once over of the welds the frame looks good to go so I'll probably keep that frame instead of swapping, the only thing holding me back was that I wasn't sure what the tail was off of. Could end up with 2 bikes the way things are going. I got onto my local breakers there and they have a 954 for breaking so I'll probably get the tail if its in good condition and then it's pretty much a respray and away we go

Thanks for the advice and direction btw, worthy of beers!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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i'm pretty sure there's a how-to thread or two around here that details converting the trunk from a keyed lock to a hidden pushbutton, also an option if you're interested.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by regener8ed
i'm pretty sure there's a how-to thread or two around here that details converting the trunk from a keyed lock to a hidden pushbutton, also an option if you're interested.
That'd be cool, have you got the link to it by any chance? I tried the search but no dice.
 
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