ninja 250

 

I agree with this whole heartedly. Riding a bike is dangerous period. Liter bikes add their own danger to the mix by having sooo much power to put down. Using the throttle stop or a rev limiter would reduce one factor of that danger to a more manageable level IF you keep the male ego under control.

 

F4 or f4i would be a good starter and would last you a while. They are way more forgiving that the 1000rr.

 

Sounds perfect then , he should know exactly what to do.

 

Just wanted to add....

You know in todays world, its a whole different ballgame in regards to 'learning' , when I was a kid little bikes were "little" and big bikes were "BiG" and way more powerfull. It was a double jeopardy thing figuring the physics of the size difference compounded, possibly exponentially, by the power difference.

Nowadays "big" bikes are about the same size and weight of most smaller (600cc) bikes and may even be lighter than some older 600s. So their one less hurdle to overcome. I think if you reign in the power (like your planning) I really dont see much to gain by going to a smaller bike, at least not for just everyday daily riding.

IMO

 

@zaq........yeah its mostly for everyday riding and hangout/"be free" days with a couple of real friends. I also plan to do track days for my "ego" fix while learning. But for the most part I will NOT go outside of my skill level with any bike I choose to ride. I always wanted to ride a sportbike and enjoy the rider/road relationship.....

 

@demon....when you say more forgiving....what is more forgiving........ when all motorcycles are dangerous period....? I do understand the power difference but where does more forgiving come in to play.....? Because from my understanding, if a rider rides at his/her skill level and "know" their bikes potential with respect to its power, no bike is less forgiving than the other when it comes to a problem situation.....?

Granted that I used to think that I would have a better chance with a 600cc in an "uh-oh" moment but that same "uh-oh" moment will probably be similar as a "uh-oh" moment with a 1000cc bike........right?

yes I am a newbie in riding, just trying to make sense of this whole "less/more" forgiving thing....? Thanks

 

The main difference in CCs is that the smaller engines make far less torque at low rpms, like leaving a stoplight for example. If you get choppie with the throttle on a 600, really no harm done. Do it on a 1000 and the next thing you know your laying on your back looking at the sky wondering wtf just happened.

You could probably stand there and literally hold back a 600 under 3/4k rpms. If I left at 4k, even my 900 will wheelie clear thru the intersection.

Aka..... forgiveness.

 

@zaq........ok now that makes sense...........so how would you recommend maintaining throttle control for someone like myself from (0-30mph)....? because I feel like that's my biggest hurdle to get over to be honest.

 

Only real cure for throttle control is practice. Lots of practice. Use a parking lot
and learn to slow-crawl figure 8's and circles. Set out something as markers to help you improve your manuvering skills. Empty beer cans work real well (that's a joke!).
with practice you can lock the handle-bars against the tank and do it all with just the throttle. If you can do good at low speed, high speed is a whole, lot easier.

Good luck, Ern