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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by "A"
I use the brake as little as I can; engine braking skill is a very good thing to learn and master, IMO more than regular brakes.

Brakes, who needs them; they only slow you down.
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So I've seen you on a lot of posts. So can you specifically say what's a good way to engine brake? And is it suppose to be so much more vibrations on your hand? Or is something wrong with my bike?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by theadamie
Why is engine-braking safer? In a car or a bike I never use it. I always thought I would rather put a little extra wear on my brakes than my transmission. My brother's a believer in engine-braking but I just don't see the benefit.

Think of the trans when it's going from 3000rpm to 11000 rpm in a few seconds. Transmissions are built tuff for a good reason. As some has already mentioned they are not made of glass so engine braking isn't going to hurt the bike. Have go at it somewhere quiet, try using the 2 both engine and brakes, you'll feel the bike is a lot more settled. Give it a go, if you like it that's good and if you don't we'll at least you gave it a try.
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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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How big are the bar weight ends on your bike. Often excessive vibration is due to too smaller bar weights.
Cheap to buy so trial and error will be cheap enough
 
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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by xchuckkks
So I've seen you on a lot of posts. So can you specifically say what's a good way to engine brake? And is it suppose to be so much more vibrations on your hand? Or is something wrong with my bike?
Ever read or watched
or
?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Conrice
You're still putting wear on your transmission when you don't use engine braking...


If your rear wheel is spinning, the engine's counter shaft is spinning inside the motor. With your engine at idle, your oil pump isn't pumping as much as it normally would for that counter shaft spinning under normal engine operating conditions.


So, at best case scenario, it's a wash as far as the motor. You're putting more wear on your brakes and not gaining anything with your motor...

I'm not saying you're going to trash your motor by rolling in neutral, I'm just saying that it's not going to "save" your motor from wear and tear by coasting to a stop in neutral.


Use engine braking, your motors aren't made of glass. It gives you added braking, more control, and it can help you if you decide not to come to a complete stop for some reason.

There's a reason that people who end up towing a motorcycle (however stupid you think it is to do) always disconnect the chain from the rear wheel before doing so.
Interesting explanation, and you're right about being able to accelerate away if you need to. I'll think about using this more, but the locking the brakes thing that someone else said doesn't make any sense to me. The brakes won't lock unless you mash the lever down, something not really easy to do, especially when using the front brake only. Don't both slow the wheel down? Doesn't seem like a big difference.
 
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