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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Hey guys, lowsided the bike on Sunday in the canyons and dislocated my shoulder. Doh!

It went down on the left side. The frame slider took most of the damage luckily. The rear fairing is broken, and the engine cover/case is a little scratched up. I took the left side apart, and there was a bit of oil in the left intake vent. There seems to be ventilation from the head into the lower part (pre-filter part) of the airbox. I think when the bike was laying on it's side oil came up through there and went into the intake duct.

The battery seems low, as when I try and crank it, the fuel pump runs but the dash goes out before it will turn the motor over. I tried pushstarting it down my driveway, moving at a good pace (faster then I've needed to pushstart it before) and in 1st and 2nd when I left the clutch out, the back tire just locks up completely. It seems as if the motor or trans is seized. it rolls in neutral, and rolls when it is in gear w/ the clutch engaged.

Any ideas? I was thinking maybe the shifter got hit and smacked a shift fork/something on the inside of the trans...? I don't see why the engine would seize. It shut off as soon as it was on it's side I THINK. I appreciate any insight.

Anyways, couple weeks ago when the bike and I were both in 1 piece

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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Sounds like it may be hydrolocked. Try pulling the plugs, covering the holes with rags, and turning it over to see what comes out.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kilgoretrout
Sounds like it may be hydrolocked. Try pulling the plugs, covering the holes with rags, and turning it over to see what comes out.
That's what I was thinking, although I don't see any way for oil (or anything else) to have gotten into the cylinders.

I'll check it out tomorrow, unfortunately I am 1 armed for a little while
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Oil could have come through the airbox. Hopefully you didn't bend a rod trying to bumpstart it.
Glad you're relatively ok, though. That sucks.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kilgoretrout
Oil could have come through the airbox. Hopefully you didn't bend a rod trying to bumpstart it.
Glad you're relatively ok, though. That sucks.
The more I think about it, the more I am thinking oil did go into the engine, and I probably did indeed damage something by trying to push start it (twice).

Luckily I have a spare f4i engine (with like 40k miles on it ) but I will have to swap that if my engine is toast.

How intense of a job is that? I am very mechanically inclined with cars, never really played with bike engines though. Seems relatively simple.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GDM YO
How intense of a job is that? I am very mechanically inclined with cars, never really played with bike engines though. Seems relatively simple.
with only one arm its not going to be that easy
after you get your arm working again its not all that hard to do a straight swap
 
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