F4I chattering rattling deceleration all rpm's video inside
#1
F4I chattering rattling deceleration all rpm's video inside
obviously its about the sound, there is a few parts where the clutch was pulled in and it sounds near the same, but it is very evident in person.
even when the throttle is maintaining rpm's it does it a little, even if you can't hear it, the chattering is at 3k rpm as well.
i don't think it is vibrations, any idea's? the CCT should of been (was) replaced 1,500 miles ago.
even when the throttle is maintaining rpm's it does it a little, even if you can't hear it, the chattering is at 3k rpm as well.
i don't think it is vibrations, any idea's? the CCT should of been (was) replaced 1,500 miles ago.
#4
but this is the engine,
and it at the lower rpms which its hard to hear on video you can feel it.
i think i can describe it as this, if you have carburetors and they are out of sync it chatters. at least my two stroke did.
is anyone thinking valves or timing am i the only one?
#5
Whats going on when your stationary ? Be nice to know if its to evident with the bike stopped. It only sounds normal when your on the gas. From what I can hear and see it comes in as soon as your NOT accellerating, even a split sec pause brings in the noise. Its like once the engine is off load there it is. Is it noisy at tick over, then gets quieter as you rev it ?..... Had another listen and it soundz a little like the timing chain slapping about in there.....mmmmm maybe ? Whats your chain guide like, slack chain and worn guide to swing` arm. Just throwing a few ideas at you sorry
Last edited by wes 17; 09-27-2012 at 01:15 PM. Reason: 2nd look at video
#6
i tried to replicate it and i couldnt.. it does this ALL the time except this afternoon.....
some thoughts on that, the bike never got above 185 or so, some of the noise is wind noise for sure. but i couldnt get it to chatter at all.
i have to fix the front forks so it will be a while before i can get further into this, so far it seems it only does it when its hot.
as of right now i can't tell if it does it in gear or not, i didnt take it fast but the 3krpm stutter never came up this test.
the chain guide on the swing arm? its not too bad i guess i just cleaned it, im not sure how tall it's supposed to be, i have no chain guard, and the chain may be a bit loose.
i'll slap myself if its a loose chain making all that noise. now do i measure it hot or cold...
some thoughts on that, the bike never got above 185 or so, some of the noise is wind noise for sure. but i couldnt get it to chatter at all.
i have to fix the front forks so it will be a while before i can get further into this, so far it seems it only does it when its hot.
as of right now i can't tell if it does it in gear or not, i didnt take it fast but the 3krpm stutter never came up this test.
the chain guide on the swing arm? its not too bad i guess i just cleaned it, im not sure how tall it's supposed to be, i have no chain guard, and the chain may be a bit loose.
i'll slap myself if its a loose chain making all that noise. now do i measure it hot or cold...
#7
By the "chain guide" I meant the swing` arm rubber slide for the chain as it passes towards the front sprocket If its worn its metal to metal, (doubtful I think as you would have found that noise) . Is the clutch ok ? Nothing binding ? You said you cleaned the bike and now no noise, a strange one this !!
#8
yeah sorry about that, the bike was clean before making all this noise, chain is good, clutch i dunno.. felt like it partially engaged when it was pulled in and i pushed the bike back, like i felt some resistance.
Sooooo.. tried multiple times to replicate this issue, and on one nice day it was great weather suprisingly no stop and go traffic and no bike temperature above 18whatever..
NEXT day, hot out, sucked, rode hit tempatures of 190+ and up to 200, bike was all pissed off about it and started making the said noise again.
today, went out cool weather no problem at all after a 40 minute ride, until . . . i got the revs up intentionally and it hit over 190.
guess who started to get all frumpy... obviously i didnt want to ride at 8krm down a 45mph road so i shifted, it got cooler, and happy.
i'll try to go out when its hot, hit the interstate something... maybe i should wire the fan to constantly run.
any ideas on this symptom for a hot engine?
Sooooo.. tried multiple times to replicate this issue, and on one nice day it was great weather suprisingly no stop and go traffic and no bike temperature above 18whatever..
NEXT day, hot out, sucked, rode hit tempatures of 190+ and up to 200, bike was all pissed off about it and started making the said noise again.
today, went out cool weather no problem at all after a 40 minute ride, until . . . i got the revs up intentionally and it hit over 190.
guess who started to get all frumpy... obviously i didnt want to ride at 8krm down a 45mph road so i shifted, it got cooler, and happy.
i'll try to go out when its hot, hit the interstate something... maybe i should wire the fan to constantly run.
any ideas on this symptom for a hot engine?
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rode hit tempatures of 190+ and up to 200, bike was all pissed off about it and started making the said noise again.
today, went out cool weather no problem at all after a 40 minute ride, until . . . i got the revs up intentionally and it hit over 190.
guess who started to get all frumpy... obviously i didnt want to ride at 8krm down a 45mph road so i shifted, it got cooler, and happy.
i'll try to go out when its hot, hit the interstate something... maybe i should wire the fan to constantly run.
any ideas on this symptom for a hot engine?
today, went out cool weather no problem at all after a 40 minute ride, until . . . i got the revs up intentionally and it hit over 190.
guess who started to get all frumpy... obviously i didnt want to ride at 8krm down a 45mph road so i shifted, it got cooler, and happy.
i'll try to go out when its hot, hit the interstate something... maybe i should wire the fan to constantly run.
any ideas on this symptom for a hot engine?
if u run ur fan like that i recomend a switch ,,, u control it,, fyi the f4i kinda runs on the warm side anyways,,, i have mine on a switch ( start bike with no fan,, get too operating temp and kick it on,,, if i hit real cool stretches i turn it off till i feel the bike again)