So I went on another group ride with BARF last week, and one of the guys on a 600RR, I noticed he was shifting without the use of his clutch for a majority of the ride. He taught me how to do it, and I can do it fairly well now, but sometimes I'll still look like an idiot trying to do it if it doesn't work, but I was wondering...is there any advantage/disadvantage to shifting without using the clutch? (i notice that it doesn't engine brake as well) Is it good/bad for the tranny? (that's my main concern if it is hurting or not hurting the tranny)

Please advise so I don't mess it up, forcing me to spend money to fix it..haha

 

Shifting without the clutch is like dancing with an ugly girl ... sure you can do it and it probably won't hurt anything but why would ya want to?

Just remember upshift clutchless only. When downshifting you really should use the clutch to avoid issues later on down the road.

 

I only shift without the clutch going up and at harder accelerations. I've played around with normal up and down shifting without the clutch, but it always takes a lot to try and rev match, plus I catch myself thinking about it too much and taking my attention away from the possible idiots on the road. No thanks!

 

I tried it a bit, prefer not to get into the habit of not clutching though.

 

Yeah, seems like it doesn't do much harm. I just do it sometimes just to see if I can or not. Aken, I'll have to try it just doing a hard acceleration to see what it does

 

I upshift clutchless usually when I am just too lazy to pull the clutch in, like when I am sitting upright and only have a hand on the throttle (usually just cruising and lower RPMs). I always use the clutch when downshifting. I only upshift clutchless about 5-10% of the time. I have just gotten use to using the clutch most of the time.

 

I use the clutch all the time, I see no real advantage by not squeezing the clutch in every time...

 

I do it (upshift) when I'm screaming at redline, but never normal riding or downshifting.

 

clutchless shifting is faster,so for street racing purposes(on a closed course) its the way to go.

 

no one has really answered my question though haha, is it bad for the tranny?