No spark= Unhappy
#251
Now, here's a pic of one of the motors that had piston slap that was way out of spec. If you look, you can easily see the rings around the entire cylinder.... I know that motor had WAY more carbon build-up and that may make it easier to see the rings, but... take a gander for yourself. I easily stuck a .012 feeler gauge comfortably/easily all the way around the piston. So I have no idea what the measurements accurately were, but sticking a flat .012 gauge all the way around and I could audibly hear how bad the piston slap was, I was for sure I was out of spec.
But that scoring looks really bad (but all 954's look like that...). And the piston heads look weird in some of those pictures... I don't know what that looks like - maybe almost like some molten solder that has splattered on them...
I'd redo everything if you have the money to do so... Just so it's a completely fresh motor.
But that scoring looks really bad (but all 954's look like that...). And the piston heads look weird in some of those pictures... I don't know what that looks like - maybe almost like some molten solder that has splattered on them...
I'd redo everything if you have the money to do so... Just so it's a completely fresh motor.
#252
Yeah my pistons do not look as bad as that to where you can see the rings. The scoring however is what I am worried about. What you see on top of my pistons is some gasket sealing crap that I used on the old head gasket to get the engine started. The top of the case will be thoroughly cleaned as well as the pistons to get all of that gunk off. I have a lot of new parts that I am getting ready to order along with a new head gasket.
So do you think I will be able to get through the season with this engine? I will not be riding the bike hard or racing just commuting and weekend riding. I could come up with the 1k for the engine but if I can avoid it for now than I would rather do so. I still have over 2k in parts to buy.
So do you think I will be able to get through the season with this engine? I will not be riding the bike hard or racing just commuting and weekend riding. I could come up with the 1k for the engine but if I can avoid it for now than I would rather do so. I still have over 2k in parts to buy.
#255
If yours isn't that bad, go for it.
#256
I am inching closer and closer to getting this thing going. I should be charging ahead starting in May. I am going to try and get the engine put back together within the next few weeks. I would essentially be able to ride with the engine back together but I am going to hold out until I get some more details done.
#257
I am inching closer and closer to getting this thing going. I should be charging ahead starting in May. I am going to try and get the engine put back together within the next few weeks. I would essentially be able to ride with the engine back together but I am going to hold out until I get some more details done.
#258
Yes, no engine work being done except the head being cleaned, valves being lapped, and put back together with new seals. The engine is just getting a new head gasket and some new head bolts. I am still looking at $2,400 just for the rebuild without doing the engine. I need new fork seals and a lot of OEM Honda parts and misc. parts and I want a lot of new parts as well as some PC'ing to be done so she looks good when she hits the road.
#259
My parts list
Misc. OEM Parts
11392-MCJ-000 X 1 $7.56 Honda
12251-MCJ-752 X 1 $39.71 Honda
17222-MCJ-750 X 1 $5.12 Honda
17226-MCJ-750 X 2 $2.63 Honda
17611-MCJ-750 X 2 $3.49 Honda
18291-MM5-860 X 4 $2.93 Honda
18950-MCJ-750 X 1 $2.26 Honda
19051-KA3-830 X 3 $1.91 Honda
19052-MAC-680 X 2 $2.90 Honda
19101-MCJ-000 X 1 $23.68 Honda
19126-MCJ-750 X 1 $17.75 Honda
19127-MCJ-300 X 2 $1.78 Honda
19312-MBW-000 X 1 $2.15 Honda
19305-KV3-010 X 1 $3.37 Honda
24781-KR3-770 X 1 $1.97 Honda
28333-300-000 X 2 $1.64 Honda
35700-MCJ-305 X 1 $38.29 Honda
43468-MCJ-000 X2 $4.62 Honda
64121-MCJ-750 X 2 $1.88 Honda
64122-MCJ-750 X 2 $2.01 Honda
64253-MR8-300 X 2 $6.12 Honda
83151-MAJ-G00 X 1 $6.60 Honda
90006-GHB-680 X 22 $1.10 Honda
90017-MA6-000 X 6 $1.94 Honda
90019-MA6-000 X 14 $1.66 Honda
90035-MCJ-000 X 7 $2.19 Honda
90101-MBB-000 X 3 $2.35 Honda
90105-MBB-000 X 4 $3.46 Honda
90105-MCJ-000 X2 $0.70 Honda
90110-KY6-000 X 1 $3.28 Honda
90110-MCJ-000 X 2 $0.70 Honda
90131-MCJ-000 X 4 $1.38 Honda
90304-GE8-003 X 4 $2.13 Honda
90454-MC7-000 X 1 $1.42 Honda
91251-MCJ-003 X 1 $3.87 Honda
91252-MCF-003 X 1 $3.79 Honda
91253-MCF-003 X 2 $3.57 Honda
91262-KV3-831 X 6 $3.46 Honda
91302-MB0-013 X 1 $1.54 Honda
91309-PX4-003 X 1 $1.52 Honda
91312-MG7-003 X 1 $3.09 Honda
91316-PE7-730 X 1 $2.60 Honda
91356-425-003 X 1 $1.61 Honda
91508-MM5-000 X 4 $2.39 Honda
93404-06028-00 X 1 $0.56 Honda
93903-25480 X 9 $0.31 Honda
94050-06000 X 1 $0.64 Honda
94101-06800 X 1 $0.27 Honda
94201-16120 X 2 $0.36 Honda
94201-20150 X 2 $0.29 Honda
94301-10160 X 2 $1.04 Honda
94520-45000 X 1 $1.12 Honda
95015-83000 X 1 $1.33 Honda
96001-06025-07 X 1 $0.74 Honda
96300-06016-00 X 4 $0.51 Honda
TOTAL $409.80
Parts and Mods
Flush Mount Signals $10.00 Ebay
Integrated Taillight $30.00 Ebay
Frame Sliders $30.00 Ebay
Solo Seat Cowl $30.00 Ebay
Hugger $30.00 Ebay
Block Off Plates $36.00 Ebay
Fairing Bolts $40.00 Ebay
Manual Tensioner $51.00 Ebay
Levers/Grips/Bar Ends $65.00 Ebay
LED Gauge $95.00 Blue Gauges
Exhaust $100.00 Ebay Probably going to make my own?
Brackets/Damper $100.00 Ebay
RK Chain $100.00 Ebay
Radiator $120.00 Ebay
Headlight $264.12 Honda 33100-MCJ-A01 X 1
Total $1,101.12
Brakes
Brake Pads $18.00 Ebay I don't know where I got this number?
Brake Lines $144.00 Ebay
Wave Rotors $239.00 Ebay
Total $401.00
Forks
51414-MCF-003 X 2 $5.65 Honda
51415-MCF-003 X 2 $3.98 Honda
51451-MCJ-751 X 2 $4.58 Honda
51453-MCJ-751 X 2 $7.08 Honda
51490-MCF-000 X 2 $12.96 Honda
51496-MCJ-751 X 2 $2.54 Honda
52442-KA3-711 X 2 $1.32 Honda
Total $76.22
Powdercoat
Sandblast $100.00
Frame $60.00
Case Covers $60.00
Swingarm $40.00
Triple Trees $40.00
Subframe $40.00
Front & Rear Sets $30.00
Swingarm Connector $30.00
Total $400.00
I need to add the rims to the PC'ing. Still looking for RC51 SP2's.
Misc. OEM Parts
11392-MCJ-000 X 1 $7.56 Honda
12251-MCJ-752 X 1 $39.71 Honda
17222-MCJ-750 X 1 $5.12 Honda
17226-MCJ-750 X 2 $2.63 Honda
17611-MCJ-750 X 2 $3.49 Honda
18291-MM5-860 X 4 $2.93 Honda
18950-MCJ-750 X 1 $2.26 Honda
19051-KA3-830 X 3 $1.91 Honda
19052-MAC-680 X 2 $2.90 Honda
19101-MCJ-000 X 1 $23.68 Honda
19126-MCJ-750 X 1 $17.75 Honda
19127-MCJ-300 X 2 $1.78 Honda
19312-MBW-000 X 1 $2.15 Honda
19305-KV3-010 X 1 $3.37 Honda
24781-KR3-770 X 1 $1.97 Honda
28333-300-000 X 2 $1.64 Honda
35700-MCJ-305 X 1 $38.29 Honda
43468-MCJ-000 X2 $4.62 Honda
64121-MCJ-750 X 2 $1.88 Honda
64122-MCJ-750 X 2 $2.01 Honda
64253-MR8-300 X 2 $6.12 Honda
83151-MAJ-G00 X 1 $6.60 Honda
90006-GHB-680 X 22 $1.10 Honda
90017-MA6-000 X 6 $1.94 Honda
90019-MA6-000 X 14 $1.66 Honda
90035-MCJ-000 X 7 $2.19 Honda
90101-MBB-000 X 3 $2.35 Honda
90105-MBB-000 X 4 $3.46 Honda
90105-MCJ-000 X2 $0.70 Honda
90110-KY6-000 X 1 $3.28 Honda
90110-MCJ-000 X 2 $0.70 Honda
90131-MCJ-000 X 4 $1.38 Honda
90304-GE8-003 X 4 $2.13 Honda
90454-MC7-000 X 1 $1.42 Honda
91251-MCJ-003 X 1 $3.87 Honda
91252-MCF-003 X 1 $3.79 Honda
91253-MCF-003 X 2 $3.57 Honda
91262-KV3-831 X 6 $3.46 Honda
91302-MB0-013 X 1 $1.54 Honda
91309-PX4-003 X 1 $1.52 Honda
91312-MG7-003 X 1 $3.09 Honda
91316-PE7-730 X 1 $2.60 Honda
91356-425-003 X 1 $1.61 Honda
91508-MM5-000 X 4 $2.39 Honda
93404-06028-00 X 1 $0.56 Honda
93903-25480 X 9 $0.31 Honda
94050-06000 X 1 $0.64 Honda
94101-06800 X 1 $0.27 Honda
94201-16120 X 2 $0.36 Honda
94201-20150 X 2 $0.29 Honda
94301-10160 X 2 $1.04 Honda
94520-45000 X 1 $1.12 Honda
95015-83000 X 1 $1.33 Honda
96001-06025-07 X 1 $0.74 Honda
96300-06016-00 X 4 $0.51 Honda
TOTAL $409.80
Parts and Mods
Flush Mount Signals $10.00 Ebay
Integrated Taillight $30.00 Ebay
Frame Sliders $30.00 Ebay
Solo Seat Cowl $30.00 Ebay
Hugger $30.00 Ebay
Block Off Plates $36.00 Ebay
Fairing Bolts $40.00 Ebay
Manual Tensioner $51.00 Ebay
Levers/Grips/Bar Ends $65.00 Ebay
LED Gauge $95.00 Blue Gauges
Exhaust $100.00 Ebay Probably going to make my own?
Brackets/Damper $100.00 Ebay
RK Chain $100.00 Ebay
Radiator $120.00 Ebay
Headlight $264.12 Honda 33100-MCJ-A01 X 1
Total $1,101.12
Brakes
Brake Pads $18.00 Ebay I don't know where I got this number?
Brake Lines $144.00 Ebay
Wave Rotors $239.00 Ebay
Total $401.00
Forks
51414-MCF-003 X 2 $5.65 Honda
51415-MCF-003 X 2 $3.98 Honda
51451-MCJ-751 X 2 $4.58 Honda
51453-MCJ-751 X 2 $7.08 Honda
51490-MCF-000 X 2 $12.96 Honda
51496-MCJ-751 X 2 $2.54 Honda
52442-KA3-711 X 2 $1.32 Honda
Total $76.22
Powdercoat
Sandblast $100.00
Frame $60.00
Case Covers $60.00
Swingarm $40.00
Triple Trees $40.00
Subframe $40.00
Front & Rear Sets $30.00
Swingarm Connector $30.00
Total $400.00
I need to add the rims to the PC'ing. Still looking for RC51 SP2's.
Last edited by msebastianCBR; 04-01-2014 at 05:36 PM.
#260
My parts list
Misc. OEM Parts
11392-MCJ-000 X 1 $7.56 Honda
12251-MCJ-752 X 1 $39.71 Honda
17222-MCJ-750 X 1 $5.12 Honda
17226-MCJ-750 X 2 $2.63 Honda
17611-MCJ-750 X 2 $3.49 Honda
18291-MM5-860 X 4 $2.93 Honda
18950-MCJ-750 X 1 $2.26 Honda
19051-KA3-830 X 3 $1.91 Honda
19052-MAC-680 X 2 $2.90 Honda
19101-MCJ-000 X 1 $23.68 Honda
19126-MCJ-750 X 1 $17.75 Honda
19127-MCJ-300 X 2 $1.78 Honda
19312-MBW-000 X 1 $2.15 Honda
19305-KV3-010 X 1 $3.37 Honda
24781-KR3-770 X 1 $1.97 Honda
28333-300-000 X 2 $1.64 Honda
35700-MCJ-305 X 1 $38.29 Honda
43468-MCJ-000 X2 $4.62 Honda
64121-MCJ-750 X 2 $1.88 Honda
64122-MCJ-750 X 2 $2.01 Honda
64253-MR8-300 X 2 $6.12 Honda
83151-MAJ-G00 X 1 $6.60 Honda
90006-GHB-680 X 22 $1.10 Honda
90017-MA6-000 X 6 $1.94 Honda
90019-MA6-000 X 14 $1.66 Honda
90035-MCJ-000 X 7 $2.19 Honda
90101-MBB-000 X 3 $2.35 Honda
90105-MBB-000 X 4 $3.46 Honda
90105-MCJ-000 X2 $0.70 Honda
90110-KY6-000 X 1 $3.28 Honda
90110-MCJ-000 X 2 $0.70 Honda
90131-MCJ-000 X 4 $1.38 Honda
90304-GE8-003 X 4 $2.13 Honda
90454-MC7-000 X 1 $1.42 Honda
91251-MCJ-003 X 1 $3.87 Honda
91252-MCF-003 X 1 $3.79 Honda
91253-MCF-003 X 2 $3.57 Honda
91262-KV3-831 X 6 $3.46 Honda
91302-MB0-013 X 1 $1.54 Honda
91309-PX4-003 X 1 $1.52 Honda
91312-MG7-003 X 1 $3.09 Honda
91316-PE7-730 X 1 $2.60 Honda
91356-425-003 X 1 $1.61 Honda
91508-MM5-000 X 4 $2.39 Honda
93404-06028-00 X 1 $0.56 Honda
93903-25480 X 9 $0.31 Honda
94050-06000 X 1 $0.64 Honda
94101-06800 X 1 $0.27 Honda
94201-16120 X 2 $0.36 Honda
94201-20150 X 2 $0.29 Honda
94301-10160 X 2 $1.04 Honda
94520-45000 X 1 $1.12 Honda
95015-83000 X 1 $1.33 Honda
96001-06025-07 X 1 $0.74 Honda
96300-06016-00 X 4 $0.51 Honda
TOTAL $409.80
Parts and Mods
Flush Mount Signals $10.00 Ebay
Integrated Taillight $30.00 Ebay
Frame Sliders $30.00 Ebay
Solo Seat Cowl $30.00 Ebay
Hugger $30.00 Ebay
Block Off Plates $36.00 Ebay
Fairing Bolts $40.00 Ebay
Manual Tensioner $51.00 Ebay
Levers/Grips/Bar Ends $65.00 Ebay
LED Gauge $95.00 Blue Gauges
Exhaust $100.00 Ebay Probably going to make my own?
Brackets/Damper $100.00 Ebay
RK Chain $100.00 Ebay
Radiator $120.00 Ebay
Headlight $264.12 Honda 33100-MCJ-A01 X 1
Total $1,101.12
Brakes
Brake Pads $18.00 Ebay I don't know where I got this number?
Brake Lines $144.00 Ebay
Wave Rotors $239.00 Ebay
Total $401.00
Forks
51414-MCF-003 X 2 $5.65 Honda
51415-MCF-003 X 2 $3.98 Honda
51451-MCJ-751 X 2 $4.58 Honda
51453-MCJ-751 X 2 $7.08 Honda
51490-MCF-000 X 2 $12.96 Honda
51496-MCJ-751 X 2 $2.54 Honda
52442-KA3-711 X 2 $1.32 Honda
Total $76.22
Powdercoat
Sandblast $100.00
Frame $60.00
Case Covers $60.00
Swingarm $40.00
Triple Trees $40.00
Subframe $40.00
Front & Rear Sets $30.00
Swingarm Connector $30.00
Total $400.00
I need to add the rims to the PC'ing. Still looking for RC51 SP2's.
Misc. OEM Parts
11392-MCJ-000 X 1 $7.56 Honda
12251-MCJ-752 X 1 $39.71 Honda
17222-MCJ-750 X 1 $5.12 Honda
17226-MCJ-750 X 2 $2.63 Honda
17611-MCJ-750 X 2 $3.49 Honda
18291-MM5-860 X 4 $2.93 Honda
18950-MCJ-750 X 1 $2.26 Honda
19051-KA3-830 X 3 $1.91 Honda
19052-MAC-680 X 2 $2.90 Honda
19101-MCJ-000 X 1 $23.68 Honda
19126-MCJ-750 X 1 $17.75 Honda
19127-MCJ-300 X 2 $1.78 Honda
19312-MBW-000 X 1 $2.15 Honda
19305-KV3-010 X 1 $3.37 Honda
24781-KR3-770 X 1 $1.97 Honda
28333-300-000 X 2 $1.64 Honda
35700-MCJ-305 X 1 $38.29 Honda
43468-MCJ-000 X2 $4.62 Honda
64121-MCJ-750 X 2 $1.88 Honda
64122-MCJ-750 X 2 $2.01 Honda
64253-MR8-300 X 2 $6.12 Honda
83151-MAJ-G00 X 1 $6.60 Honda
90006-GHB-680 X 22 $1.10 Honda
90017-MA6-000 X 6 $1.94 Honda
90019-MA6-000 X 14 $1.66 Honda
90035-MCJ-000 X 7 $2.19 Honda
90101-MBB-000 X 3 $2.35 Honda
90105-MBB-000 X 4 $3.46 Honda
90105-MCJ-000 X2 $0.70 Honda
90110-KY6-000 X 1 $3.28 Honda
90110-MCJ-000 X 2 $0.70 Honda
90131-MCJ-000 X 4 $1.38 Honda
90304-GE8-003 X 4 $2.13 Honda
90454-MC7-000 X 1 $1.42 Honda
91251-MCJ-003 X 1 $3.87 Honda
91252-MCF-003 X 1 $3.79 Honda
91253-MCF-003 X 2 $3.57 Honda
91262-KV3-831 X 6 $3.46 Honda
91302-MB0-013 X 1 $1.54 Honda
91309-PX4-003 X 1 $1.52 Honda
91312-MG7-003 X 1 $3.09 Honda
91316-PE7-730 X 1 $2.60 Honda
91356-425-003 X 1 $1.61 Honda
91508-MM5-000 X 4 $2.39 Honda
93404-06028-00 X 1 $0.56 Honda
93903-25480 X 9 $0.31 Honda
94050-06000 X 1 $0.64 Honda
94101-06800 X 1 $0.27 Honda
94201-16120 X 2 $0.36 Honda
94201-20150 X 2 $0.29 Honda
94301-10160 X 2 $1.04 Honda
94520-45000 X 1 $1.12 Honda
95015-83000 X 1 $1.33 Honda
96001-06025-07 X 1 $0.74 Honda
96300-06016-00 X 4 $0.51 Honda
TOTAL $409.80
Parts and Mods
Flush Mount Signals $10.00 Ebay
Integrated Taillight $30.00 Ebay
Frame Sliders $30.00 Ebay
Solo Seat Cowl $30.00 Ebay
Hugger $30.00 Ebay
Block Off Plates $36.00 Ebay
Fairing Bolts $40.00 Ebay
Manual Tensioner $51.00 Ebay
Levers/Grips/Bar Ends $65.00 Ebay
LED Gauge $95.00 Blue Gauges
Exhaust $100.00 Ebay Probably going to make my own?
Brackets/Damper $100.00 Ebay
RK Chain $100.00 Ebay
Radiator $120.00 Ebay
Headlight $264.12 Honda 33100-MCJ-A01 X 1
Total $1,101.12
Brakes
Brake Pads $18.00 Ebay I don't know where I got this number?
Brake Lines $144.00 Ebay
Wave Rotors $239.00 Ebay
Total $401.00
Forks
51414-MCF-003 X 2 $5.65 Honda
51415-MCF-003 X 2 $3.98 Honda
51451-MCJ-751 X 2 $4.58 Honda
51453-MCJ-751 X 2 $7.08 Honda
51490-MCF-000 X 2 $12.96 Honda
51496-MCJ-751 X 2 $2.54 Honda
52442-KA3-711 X 2 $1.32 Honda
Total $76.22
Powdercoat
Sandblast $100.00
Frame $60.00
Case Covers $60.00
Swingarm $40.00
Triple Trees $40.00
Subframe $40.00
Front & Rear Sets $30.00
Swingarm Connector $30.00
Total $400.00
I need to add the rims to the PC'ing. Still looking for RC51 SP2's.
PLEASE DO THE RC RIMS!!! They look so good.
(Or ZX14 rims - those are pretty killer looking too)