Playfulgod looks like you havent picked up the issue of Superstreet Bike where they test the myth's of "Lowered and stretched bikes." How many times have you lowered your f4 and rode it?????? Ive lowered mine without stretching it and the only difference i noticed was the pegs were easier to scrape....im not speakin on somethin i dont know anything bout.....ive experienced it there guy!