Wax or Lube?????
#21
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RE: Wax or Lube?????
ORIGINAL: MI900RR
I should clarify, WD-40 is a really bad cleaner. It won't work well because it is water based. Wax and petro lubes just repel the water, and the water will also cause parts to rust. The solvent can also damage x-ring and o-ring seals if left on long enough. I've been using bean clean. Can get it here: http://www.chaindrain.com/
It's completely safe for x-rings and o-rings, it's made from soybean oil so way less toxic than solvents, and it works like a ****.
I should clarify, WD-40 is a really bad cleaner. It won't work well because it is water based. Wax and petro lubes just repel the water, and the water will also cause parts to rust. The solvent can also damage x-ring and o-ring seals if left on long enough. I've been using bean clean. Can get it here: http://www.chaindrain.com/
It's completely safe for x-rings and o-rings, it's made from soybean oil so way less toxic than solvents, and it works like a ****.
It won't work well because it is water based
but......
Ok... a vegetarian chain sounds great ...
I now have had all of my cans of WD40 put down humanly ... and are now being buried..and I will go and adopt a can of the soybean oil asap..
I dunno how we ever all got along before this stuff....
Geezus ... plant food for my chain now[:-] ..what will they think of next mate ..[:-]
sorry for your confusion DukeCBR ...but I thought that 30 year of using the stuff with not one issue arrising made it ok to at least clean with :-)
#22
RE: Wax or Lube?????
Lol, holy hell this topic is out of control. I feel somewhat responsible but hey, its all in good fun. I say that the folks who have used the stuff forever shoul stick with what they like and these rest of us young bloods should just get a grunge brush and a wad of rags and get down and dirty with it. I have never really cleaned my chain, I just spray a bit of wd40 on a rag and that makes it slide easily as I spin the rear tire and hold the rag on the chain. A few dozen revolutions after using the grunge brush should do the trick. Mind you this is after a good ride where everything is warm and loose and ready to be cleaned. In terms of getting in those sealed area, who the hell really cares? As long as you don't have the chain clogged to **** with the dirt and grime, and keep soaking the selaed areas in fresh lube or wax every 200 miles, you should never have an issue. I think this is one of those things that people overthink, and really its not that important. I made my previous posts on the issue because I didn't think that the WD40 was a great ideal as a real chain soaker, thats all. It works great as a rag soaker to cut through the surface ****. Maybe my chain never really gets that dirty? Point is that its your call as an individual, and as long as your not misinformaed and truly damaging your chain with solvents then your not going to be setting yourself back. Lets cut the Classis Australian and all the other old timers who have been around the block a break. The best idea is to keep thing clean enough so you don't have a three hour cleaning job, again, it all comes down to regular PREVENTATIVE maintenance. This has been a fun post though, I love how seriosu we all get over these tiny little things. Keep it up!
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RE: Wax or Lube?????
Ok I just had to jump in on this one. Now if you wanna go with Honda then you only use 80w to 90w gear lube to lube your chain after it is warm of course. Plain chain lube cancontains these "solvents" that everyone keeps saying will damage your O or X rings. As for cleaning I know the Haynes manual says to clean with kerosene, but not gasoline as gas has solvents that may damage the chain. It says as long as you only soak it for about 5-6 minutes then blow out with compressed air immediately then it will not do any damage. The entire process should not take more than 10 minutes. Personally I don't know about it but that is whats in the Haynes manual for our bike. As for the lube being gear lube that one is from Honda themselves. Also I knowthat it is recommended notto use a chain with a clip style master link, though when I got my bike it had one on it.
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RE: Wax or Lube?????
ORIGINAL: slimmyslim1420
Ok I just had to jump in on this one. Now if you wanna go with Honda then you only use 80w to 90w gear lube to lube your chain after it is warm of course. Plain chain lube cancontains these "solvents" that everyone keeps saying will damage your O or X rings. As for cleaning I know the Haynes manual says to clean with kerosene, but not gasoline as gas has solvents that may damage the chain. It says as long as you only soak it for about 5-6 minutes then blow out with compressed air immediately then it will not do any damage. The entire process should not take more than 10 minutes. Personally I don't know about it but that is whats in the Haynes manual for our bike. As for the lube being gear lube that one is from Honda themselves. Also I knowthat it is recommended notto use a chain with a clip style master link, though when I got my bike it had one on it.
Ok I just had to jump in on this one. Now if you wanna go with Honda then you only use 80w to 90w gear lube to lube your chain after it is warm of course. Plain chain lube cancontains these "solvents" that everyone keeps saying will damage your O or X rings. As for cleaning I know the Haynes manual says to clean with kerosene, but not gasoline as gas has solvents that may damage the chain. It says as long as you only soak it for about 5-6 minutes then blow out with compressed air immediately then it will not do any damage. The entire process should not take more than 10 minutes. Personally I don't know about it but that is whats in the Haynes manual for our bike. As for the lube being gear lube that one is from Honda themselves. Also I knowthat it is recommended notto use a chain with a clip style master link, though when I got my bike it had one on it.
Never has such a simple subject become so complex I love it
I do like your extended explanation of cleaning which includes
BLOWING THE BLOODY THING OUT TILL DRY ...
with air to remove either or all or any or any combination of the following :
WD40
Vegi based oil
kero
washing detergent
water
beer
bourbon
take a **** on it [:-]
anything bloody wet
I do love a little debate
great thread mate's .. and I mean that seriously...
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RE: Wax or Lube?????
ORIGINAL: DukeCBR
HA HA HA HA!!! Never had I thought that such a simple thread could get this complex. What next dudes, someone coming here to say that they heard someone using old MacDonalds oil on their chain.
PS: Dont do that newbies, you will seriously stuff your chain up.
HA HA HA HA!!! Never had I thought that such a simple thread could get this complex. What next dudes, someone coming here to say that they heard someone using old MacDonalds oil on their chain.
PS: Dont do that newbies, you will seriously stuff your chain up.
**** mate ... there probablly is enough grease in a big mack to do a fine job...
I think your onto something
....as he thinks hmmm , will I eat it ? or use it to clean my chain ??? hmmmm..
Definately a Big ... Mack decision
[align=center]NEWBIE'S : As well as stuffing up your chain ...
[/align][align=center]- A WARNING : For the Kids at Home -
DO NOT TRY TO EAT WHAT IS LEFT OF YOUR BURGER
ONCE IT HAS BEEN USED TO LUBE OR CLEAN YOUR CHAIN
Eating Chain Grit is a Health Hazard!!!!!!
TASTE'S LIKE **** !!!
OR COULD BE DETRAMENTAL TO YOUR TEETH!!!
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RE: Wax or Lube?????
A burger and fries for me please
On a more serious note [&o]I gotta go with the "NO wd-40 for my chain" crew
If all else fails and you are still confused and I don't blame you, just call a bunch of Honda dealers and ask for the service dept. Ask them what they think. Since they are Honda certified you'd think they would know what's best for our Honda chains.
On a more serious note [&o]I gotta go with the "NO wd-40 for my chain" crew
If all else fails and you are still confused and I don't blame you, just call a bunch of Honda dealers and ask for the service dept. Ask them what they think. Since they are Honda certified you'd think they would know what's best for our Honda chains.