Randon thought.... If your buddy was white, the cop was black would you still be asking the same quesion, or are you just stereotyping cops?

 

He lives less than a mile away from where he got pulled over and he was going somewhere between 90 and 115. He deserves to get into some trouble. But thats just my 2 cents

 

They arrest people like your friend.

 

so speeding, and you get in an accident causing death is accidental then?? And going to guns-r-us, getting a whatever..mac 10, shot gun, .45..and having it on you so when some one pisses u off, you shoot them, is NOT preventable?? I don't get that logic at all. Don't speed, don't have a gun, don't drink and drive. I did read your post, and Im not sounding like a douchebag, so calm down.

 

[quote]ORIGINAL: thecannibalchef


If you don't want to look like a douchebag, you should probably learn to read, and you should definitely screen your thoughts before you post them. Had you read my whole post rather than just scrolling past all the dialogue because a thought popped into your head and you didn't want to lose it before it was published on the forum, you would have noticed that I described what he did as something that I and lots of people do all the time (and when there's no traffic, I don't see a problem with it), and, when pulled over, we are all treated better than him. The cop couldn't have been chasing him long, because he lives less than a mile from the intersection where he got pulled over.


first, i would like to say that your friend probably got what he had coming to him. speeding at 100 mph in the city is just plain stupidity. not only are you risking your own life, but the lives of everyone else on the road. if he, or anyone for that matter, can't take responsibe actions andobide by the lawwith any type of machine that can kill at any speed, then they need punished. He was probably drivingAT LEASTtwice the posted limit, maybe more...i don't know TX speed laws, but i would be that would probably be grounds for wreckless op and arrest.

now for my response to some of your posts. you claim that you and lots of other people speed that fast all the time. i disagree. yes, people do speed on the roads, but being a betting man, i would GUARANTEE you that they don't do it at twice the limit or faster. you also claim that there is should be no problem about speeding if there is no traffic around? so by your remark,it would be safe to assume that it'sperfectly fineto rob someone when they are home? you are ignorant...it's still speeding, it's still stealing...YOU ARE STILL BREAKINGTHE LAW!!!!!!!! if you break the law there are consequences.here, i think you need to heed your own advice you posted above and think about what you are going to say before you open your mouth. you ramble on about things and make so many assumptions about everyone. your thoughts are one-sided. You also claim that in TX you can't be arrested for speeding alone, but you can be arrested for improper lane change (at the cops discretion). Your friend was speeding andMADE AN IMPROPER LANE CHANGE(was cited...as you said earlier). "At the cops discretion" means he doesn't have to arrest him, but if the cop deems it dangerous enough, he will. The speeds your friend was traveling would make me believe the cop deemed it dangerous enough, as would i. I would have arrested him too.

And how does murder even get brought up with this? He was speeding, so how could you even compare what he did to murder? you claim law enforcement spends too much time aith traffic violations and not enough time "protecting" society, and that if they spent as much time "protecting" people like they are"supposed" to, then people wouldn't be getting murdered? Here again you are ignorant. It is IMPOSSIBLE to predict something like that. This isyear 2007, not Minority Report. If we had THAT kind of technology, then yes it WOULD be possible topredict crimes of that nature. The only way to stop murder would be to assign an officer to each person (like a body guard). That is not possible, as there is nowhere near enough officers to assign to each person. Nobody can predict the future and be somewhere where something like that will occur. It's just not possible.

It doesn't matter if your friend was black, white, mexican, blue, yellow or even pink. He was driving very dangerously in town, like that even matters, and he deserved what he got. Have i ever been pulled over for speeding? sure, but the few timesi have, it was for maybe 10 over...if that. Had i been speeding as much as your friend, i would have expected the same treatment. In my opini

 

Edit:I didn't see WAlly28's post before I posted mine. He addressed the two issues better than I did.

So you feel it's constantly okfor you and other peopleto ride recklesslyon public roadsas long as you just "don't see any traffic"? Did I interpret your statement correctly? If so, I couldn't disagree with you more. Ride safely all the time since who knows what non-visible issue can pop up at any instant, from any angle,and lead to the so-called "freak accident", as we refer to it all to often.

Public roads are an environment which law enforcement has a better"measure of control" over. They therefore canbetter control certain activities which are precursers to what we want to prevent. I think we know what. Now just how are we supposed tobetter prevent,say, a murders culminating from domestic dsputes (I believe you alluded to something like this in another post)? Should we have anti-domestic dispute days and be forced to let law enforcement into our homes on these days to check things out? I don't know if that's the best example.Butwhat I'm trying to say is thatof course there areno easy answers forwhat law enforcement can/should do tobetterprevent every very unfortunate occurrance. But at least on pulic roadswedo havea better measure of control, for the general public,to at least cut downoncertain activities which we know could lead to disaster.

 

i would say your buddy was profiled all right. not because of his skin, but the type of bike he was riding.

i had never been pulled over on a motorcycle the years i have been riding, until i got my 600rr. when i was dual sporting it up, 0 problems.
then i get a sportbike and i get pulled over twice, just to see if i had a motorcycle license. and another time when i got a ticket for passing on a double yellow (totally my fault). but the way cops treated me while pulled over was horrible. i was treated better by the cops who detaned me for under age drinking. this is why im gonna stop riding sportbikes on the street. ill stick to my yami dual sport for the commuting from now on. the cops dont even look my way, even with the loud 450 engine roaring. they just say f-it, its a dirtbike lol.

 

Cops for the most part suck -the nature of their work breeds synicism. So, you take the combination of a half-wit and put him in a uniform with the power of authority, allow him to view the world through his synical nature and you get the cop that treats all people the same - with contempt and disrespect. Take a smarter individual and he/she can see through all the bullsh*t and doesn't thrive on such a power trip. Unfortunately, I live in a town/county full of ignorant/power hungry cops -I hate 'em. I work in the city and run with the cops their all the time - a totally different breed. My town - I get pulled over and jacked with for being on a sportbike - drive into the city and never even given a second look. I work for the Fire Dept. in the city and run with the city cops every day and ask them about the smaller city/county cops. They just laugh. I'm not bashing all cops - just the dimwits that ruin the profession.

 

The only good pig is the one in line at dunkin donuts.... Bad pig no donut....

 

good call - just like teachers, if we had more intelligent cops, we might be better off. the problem is, if they are that smart, they don't become cops and teachers - they would rather make money... i'll be a teacher one day, when I can afford it.