My first bike ever... any tips?
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Holy poop! No wonder insurance keeps going up! Slow that thing down and don't do any of that crazy crap until you get a feel for it. You don't just have to watch out for other cars, but animals running in front of you, crap in the road, and road signs or mail boxes that you might wipe out on when you're turning to fast before you're ready. I'm a new rider and for the first week I just rode it around the neighborhood - I didn't launch it to see what it can do.
Also, don't do that running it hard bull either. Doing that before everything has time to seat properly will hose everything up in the long run. Don't even take it past 5K until you get at least 200 or 300 miles on it, but I imagine you already did when you hit 135. Go easy on that thing for a while.
Also, don't do that running it hard bull either. Doing that before everything has time to seat properly will hose everything up in the long run. Don't even take it past 5K until you get at least 200 or 300 miles on it, but I imagine you already did when you hit 135. Go easy on that thing for a while.
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Slowpoke_dave nailed it. Very Nice +1 for you. You hear applaud as everyon stands.
On a side note I am currently learning on an 05 RR and It is all true to me. I know there is at least one that will disagree.
On a side note I am currently learning on an 05 RR and It is all true to me. I know there is at least one that will disagree.
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Slowpoke_dave nailed it. Very Nice +1 for you. You hear applaud as everyon stands.
On a side note I am currently learning on an 05 RR and It is all true to me. I know there is at least one that will disagree.
Slowpoke_dave nailed it. Very Nice +1 for you. You hear applaud as everyon stands.
On a side note I am currently learning on an 05 RR and It is all true to me. I know there is at least one that will disagree.
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Actually I was serious. He explained the whole scope of these bikes. The second part of my reply is that usually when someone states as much as slowpoke did someone will pick it apart. Sorry for the confusion...
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RE: My first bike ever... any tips?
First off they are expensive to purchase and insure...
In Dubai we don't have animals in the streets for anyone to be wary of! [8D] Apart from cats of course, but they're already ran over so who cares!
It's a race bike, no fun to ride around on slow
Seriously, riding it is not any special from any other bike, which I only realized after I tried. But again I would say it needs someone with a built to handle it. Working out could sort you out. It heavier, more powerful, FASTER, FASTER, FASTER... : D
Take it easy, I am 22, if I can do it then anyone can!
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Seriously, riding it is not any special from any other bike, which I only realized after I tried. But again I would say it needs someone with a built to handle it. Working out could sort you out. It heavier, more powerful, FASTER, FASTER, FASTER... : D
Take it easy, I am 22, if I can do it then anyone can!
Seriously, riding it is not any special from any other bike, which I only realized after I tried. But again I would say it needs someone with a built to handle it. Working out could sort you out. It heavier, more powerful, FASTER, FASTER, FASTER... : D
Take it easy, I am 22, if I can do it then anyone can!
"not special from any other bike" Meaning you've ignored everything some of the more experienced riders have written about the bike.
"Needs someone with a build" Hinting that you think that muscling or a strong arm will make it do what you want? Lets try being smooth and relaxed, being tense and feeling you have to force the bike to do what you want are one of those "survival reactions" I'm referring to (from Keith Code's book Twist of the Wrist II), just like your view on breaking.
In reference to your "if I can do it anyone can..." you have not even begun to do anything and you come off as if you think have it down already...I pray the lessons you learn are not life threatening, because it's new riders like you that I worry about.
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RE: My first bike ever... any tips?
The kinds of animals I had in mind are cats, deer, dogs wanting a piece of you and anything else that might run out. I'm going to have to side with Fretless33 on this one. Go get and read any book by Keith Code...it's certainly worth reading and learning to control any survival reactions that will save your behind. I think you'll be ok on the RR, but go really easy on that. If you give too much coming out of a turn, you might break the rear wheel loose and be in a whole world of trouble until you become more familiar with it. I'm a very new rider, going on almost 2 months, but everytime I go out I become more familiar with my F4i. I have yet to go over 70 mph and I haven't even hit 9k in rpms yet, nor have I even gone wide open throttle simply because once past 7k it gets major power and it really accelerates hard and it becomes a little scary for me.
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this whole thread cracks me up. ya ya, Crackers, harr harr.
Anyway, the reason it cracks me up is the fact that some of the new riders here are even trying to argue with the people that appear to be experienced riders. I'll tell you right now, I just turned 20 years old and i'm just starting to ride. No I didn't choose a Hayabusa to start. Not a 900RR. Hell, not even a 600. I'm on a Ninja250. I'm going to learn the dynamics of riding, the threshold of grip, the lean characteristcs, etc... of a lighweight, low powered motorycle before I move on to real track machines. (I'm on CBR forums because i'm planning to get a CBR asap. I'm getting awfully sick of this whole Fast and Furious culture my peers are submersed in. It's arrogant, ignorant, and disrespectful to the sport, and it's why the older folk look down on us. I think just now it's starting to seep into the motorcycle world. I've been a car guy all my life and i'm starting to see the same crowd of people that buy a Mitsu Evo, and crash it in the first week because they think AWD means "more grip" move into the bike world. Never mind taking some time to learn the fundamentals (and particulars) of motor vehicle control. "I'm a coordinated person, I can handle it. So i'm going to start on the fastest best handling thing around." That kind of mentality sends cats straight to the ER. I'm not saying any particular person who has written a response is any of the three above adjectives, but I do see some diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain if you catch my drift. Better brakes, handling, engine response, etc... does NOT make an easier bike to learn on. A McLaren F1 has all those things in spades, but should a 16 year old learn to drive on one? NO. There is an inverse relationship between vehicle performance, and operator skill level. The better the machine and the less skilled the operater, the more bones will be broken. Conversely, put Valentino Rossi on a "lowly" Ninja 250, and he'll have the bike learned in minutes. Learning on a superbike CAN be done, but then again I guess a blind man "could" climb Mount Everest. heh. Flame off.
Sorry, I got a little fired up there for a minute. If you want a Cliff Notes of the above, it's this. Guys n' Gals: New Riders: Listen to what some of these old dogs have to say. They've been around the block a few times. Stop thinking five minutes in front of your face and take the time to do it right. If you value the feel of smooth skin or the ability to tie your own shoes, slow it down learn on little bikes. And for the love of god, take a MSF course, basic and then advanced once you're ready.
Anyway, the reason it cracks me up is the fact that some of the new riders here are even trying to argue with the people that appear to be experienced riders. I'll tell you right now, I just turned 20 years old and i'm just starting to ride. No I didn't choose a Hayabusa to start. Not a 900RR. Hell, not even a 600. I'm on a Ninja250. I'm going to learn the dynamics of riding, the threshold of grip, the lean characteristcs, etc... of a lighweight, low powered motorycle before I move on to real track machines. (I'm on CBR forums because i'm planning to get a CBR asap. I'm getting awfully sick of this whole Fast and Furious culture my peers are submersed in. It's arrogant, ignorant, and disrespectful to the sport, and it's why the older folk look down on us. I think just now it's starting to seep into the motorcycle world. I've been a car guy all my life and i'm starting to see the same crowd of people that buy a Mitsu Evo, and crash it in the first week because they think AWD means "more grip" move into the bike world. Never mind taking some time to learn the fundamentals (and particulars) of motor vehicle control. "I'm a coordinated person, I can handle it. So i'm going to start on the fastest best handling thing around." That kind of mentality sends cats straight to the ER. I'm not saying any particular person who has written a response is any of the three above adjectives, but I do see some diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain if you catch my drift. Better brakes, handling, engine response, etc... does NOT make an easier bike to learn on. A McLaren F1 has all those things in spades, but should a 16 year old learn to drive on one? NO. There is an inverse relationship between vehicle performance, and operator skill level. The better the machine and the less skilled the operater, the more bones will be broken. Conversely, put Valentino Rossi on a "lowly" Ninja 250, and he'll have the bike learned in minutes. Learning on a superbike CAN be done, but then again I guess a blind man "could" climb Mount Everest. heh. Flame off.
Sorry, I got a little fired up there for a minute. If you want a Cliff Notes of the above, it's this. Guys n' Gals: New Riders: Listen to what some of these old dogs have to say. They've been around the block a few times. Stop thinking five minutes in front of your face and take the time to do it right. If you value the feel of smooth skin or the ability to tie your own shoes, slow it down learn on little bikes. And for the love of god, take a MSF course, basic and then advanced once you're ready.
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ORIGINAL: Crackers
this whole thread cracks me up. ya ya, Crackers, harr harr.
Anyway, the reason it cracks me up is the fact that some of the new riders here are even trying to argue with the people that appear to be experienced riders. I'll tell you right now, I just turned 20 years old and i'm just starting to ride. No I didn't choose a Hayabusa to start. Not a 900RR. Hell, not even a 600. I'm on a Ninja250. I'm going to learn the dynamics of riding, the threshold of grip, the lean characteristcs, etc... of a lighweight, low powered motorycle before I move on to real track machines. (I'm on CBR forums because i'm planning to get a CBR asap. I'm getting awfully sick of this whole Fast and Furious culture my peers are submersed in. It's arrogant, ignorant, and disrespectful to the sport, and it's why the older folk look down on us. I think just now it's starting to seep into the motorcycle world. I've been a car guy all my life and i'm starting to see the same crowd of people that buy a Mitsu Evo, and crash it in the first week because they think AWD means "more grip" move into the bike world. Never mind taking some time to learn the fundamentals (and particulars) of motor vehicle control. "I'm a coordinated person, I can handle it. So i'm going to start on the fastest best handling thing around." That kind of mentality sends cats straight to the ER. I'm not saying any particular person who has written a response is any of the three above adjectives, but I do see some diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain if you catch my drift. Better brakes, handling, engine response, etc... does NOT make an easier bike to learn on. A McLaren F1 has all those things in spades, but should a 16 year old learn to drive on one? NO. There is an inverse relationship between vehicle performance, and operator skill level. The better the machine and the less skilled the operater, the more bones will be broken. Conversely, put Valentino Rossi on a "lowly" Ninja 250, and he'll have the bike learned in minutes. Learning on a superbike CAN be done, but then again I guess a blind man "could" climb Mount Everest. heh. Flame off.
Sorry, I got a little fired up there for a minute. If you want a Cliff Notes of the above, it's this. Guys n' Gals: New Riders: Listen to what some of these old dogs have to say. They've been around the block a few times. Stop thinking five minutes in front of your face and take the time to do it right. If you value the feel of smooth skin or the ability to tie your own shoes, slow it down learn on little bikes. And for the love of god, take a MSF course, basic and then advanced once you're ready.
this whole thread cracks me up. ya ya, Crackers, harr harr.
Anyway, the reason it cracks me up is the fact that some of the new riders here are even trying to argue with the people that appear to be experienced riders. I'll tell you right now, I just turned 20 years old and i'm just starting to ride. No I didn't choose a Hayabusa to start. Not a 900RR. Hell, not even a 600. I'm on a Ninja250. I'm going to learn the dynamics of riding, the threshold of grip, the lean characteristcs, etc... of a lighweight, low powered motorycle before I move on to real track machines. (I'm on CBR forums because i'm planning to get a CBR asap. I'm getting awfully sick of this whole Fast and Furious culture my peers are submersed in. It's arrogant, ignorant, and disrespectful to the sport, and it's why the older folk look down on us. I think just now it's starting to seep into the motorcycle world. I've been a car guy all my life and i'm starting to see the same crowd of people that buy a Mitsu Evo, and crash it in the first week because they think AWD means "more grip" move into the bike world. Never mind taking some time to learn the fundamentals (and particulars) of motor vehicle control. "I'm a coordinated person, I can handle it. So i'm going to start on the fastest best handling thing around." That kind of mentality sends cats straight to the ER. I'm not saying any particular person who has written a response is any of the three above adjectives, but I do see some diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain if you catch my drift. Better brakes, handling, engine response, etc... does NOT make an easier bike to learn on. A McLaren F1 has all those things in spades, but should a 16 year old learn to drive on one? NO. There is an inverse relationship between vehicle performance, and operator skill level. The better the machine and the less skilled the operater, the more bones will be broken. Conversely, put Valentino Rossi on a "lowly" Ninja 250, and he'll have the bike learned in minutes. Learning on a superbike CAN be done, but then again I guess a blind man "could" climb Mount Everest. heh. Flame off.
Sorry, I got a little fired up there for a minute. If you want a Cliff Notes of the above, it's this. Guys n' Gals: New Riders: Listen to what some of these old dogs have to say. They've been around the block a few times. Stop thinking five minutes in front of your face and take the time to do it right. If you value the feel of smooth skin or the ability to tie your own shoes, slow it down learn on little bikes. And for the love of god, take a MSF course, basic and then advanced once you're ready.
And guess what...Crackers? You'll probably smoke about 50% of these newbies on their RR with your 250 within a year on the track and the rest when you get your RR!!!
If you don't mind, I'm probably going to use this reply on a few other message boards...you made me proud Crackers...you made me proud!
