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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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I hate to admit it, butI agree with the general opinion of people on this forum. I've been riding my 600 for about1-2 months now, and well,I would have rather started on smaller bike. While takingturnsItry to hit the apex, but i weave from the inside, to middle of the lane, backto the inside then finnalyback out to the outside on the lane.Partialy because the throttle is so toutchy, and because there is a whole lot of things wrapped up in a turn.

Also, while taking turns if there is any oil or gravel and you give it a little to much gas, the back tire likes to slide, and its scary as death, even if you're taking a turn slow. A smaller bike would be easier to learn on, and would be better because it isnt as touchy and doesnt have as much power.

Getting used to the power is an interesting experience. I'm alwaysrunninghigher gears trying to stayin a low RPM soI can manage the power of themotorcycle, but I'm trying to shake that habbit so i dont damage the engine. Although, I dont know if I'dtake back anything I've done because finding a good deal on a smaller bike then having to go through selling it and buying a 600 a few years after i've felt i've outgrown the bike is alot of work IMO. I couldn't imagine what a 1kRR or any other 1kCC bike would be like trying to learn on.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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what do you guys think of the new yamaha fz6 naked bike? I hear that is a pretty good starter bike and I think it looks pretty badass too.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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I hate to admit it, butI agree with the general opinion of people on this forum. I've been riding my 600 for about1-2 months now, and well,I would have rather started on smaller bike. While takingturnsItry to hit the apex, but i weave from the inside, to middle of the lane, backto the inside then finnalyback out to the outside on the lane.Partialy because the throttle is so toutchy, and because there is a whole lot of things wrapped up in a turn.

Also, while taking turns if there is any oil or gravel and you give it a little to much gas, the back tire likes to slide, and its scary as death, even if you're taking a turn slow. A smaller bike would be easier to learn on, and would be better because it isnt as touchy and doesnt have as much power.
I feel you on the cornering. The throttle is very sensitive, and if you hit it too much on the apex you will be in trouble really quick.

To the OP, you asked why I said I would get a smaller cc bike to start with. There are so many things you need to worry about when learning how to ride (the mechanics of the transmission, throttle control, how to turn, watching for traffic, etc) you don't need to complicate it with precision steering, sensitive throttle, and scary powerful brakes.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: Mstngdrew232

I hate to admit it, butI agree with the general opinion of people on this forum. I've been riding my 600 for about1-2 months now, and well,I would have rather started on smaller bike. While takingturnsItry to hit the apex, but i weave from the inside, to middle of the lane, backto the inside then finnalyback out to the outside on the lane.Partialy because the throttle is so toutchy, and because there is a whole lot of things wrapped up in a turn.

Also, while taking turns if there is any oil or gravel and you give it a little to much gas, the back tire likes to slide, and its scary as death, even if you're taking a turn slow. A smaller bike would be easier to learn on, and would be better because it isnt as touchy and doesnt have as much power.

Getting used to the power is an interesting experience. I'm alwaysrunninghigher gears trying to stayin a low RPM soI can manage the power of themotorcycle, but I'm trying to shake that habbit so i dont damage the engine. Although, I dont know if I'dtake back anything I've done because finding a good deal on a smaller bike then having to go through selling it and buying a 600 a few years after i've felt i've outgrown the bike is alot of work IMO. I couldn't imagine what a 1kRR or any other 1kCC bike would be like trying to learn on.
good post drew. Considering i sold him his bike, the throttle on the f4i is actually loose compared to the 600rr. If drew can make a post like this I'd hope you take the advice of the general public. My friend just got a 600rr a month ago and never rode before either. He wanted that or the r6 because" he didnt wanna get a bike he would hate in a month" Well a month later he now dropped it once when he lost his footing and slid out on a turn from inexperience + a sensitive throttle. So now the right side of his "bike he wont outgrow" has a scuffed up right side and a good $500 in repairs at least.

Personally im getting into track days and instead of tracking the 600rr and taking a step down and picking up an sv650 because its more forgiving. You friends can laugh all they want but at least your being responsible about the choice. Main problem is your gonna be so paronoid of the power of the 600rr or r6 or gsxr that your never going to truely learn how to ride it to its capabilities.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Woot man you just described what my dad says all the time. He had a 70s model 750 back in the day and it was fast. He thinks my little 600rr is slow and wants to ride it. I will not let him because he refuses to wear full face helmet. He thinks is 750 will walk all over it. Of course he doesn't have it anymore so i can never prove him wrong. I started out on a 250 rebel (don't laugh) for 1500 bucks. You could peg the throttle through all the gears and well not out run much but it was fun and got 70mpg if you run the **** out of it. I got a f3 soon after that and gave my girlfriend my 250. She could out run me in the curves on that little thing for a long time because i didn't spend enough time on it to learn much. I wish i had the little thing back it was fun. I looked like an idiot on it but it was better than a scooter and would run 65 down the highway.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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To the OP:

No matter what I or anyone else has to say, you're the one who has to live with your decision at the end of the day.
Power is a concern, but not the only one. It seems that a big factor has been left out: Geometry of the bike's setup. The RR's, GSX-R's, R6's etc etc have an unforgiving geometry. Shorter wheel bases and steeper fork rake.

My advise: If you're dead set on a 600cc sport bike, go for it. Just limit it to a few choices. One would be the katana 600, the CBR F4 (99-00), or the CBR F4i (injected 01-06). Not the best starter bikes, but fairly easy to handle and forgiving tomost, but not all,rider mistakes.

Oh, and also be sure to get and actually read: "A Twist of the Wrist" Vol. 2by Keith Code. Best $20 you'll ever spend on bike related stuff. All the bull**** mods won't gain you anything, but this book will.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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be sure to get and actually read: "A Twist of the Wrist" Vol. 2by Keith Code. Best $20 you'll ever spend on bike related stuff. All the bull**** mods won't gain you anything, but this book will.
Absolutely true.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Holy ****aki did I miss this thread. Seems to be going like every other one so no need to waste my breath. They ask for opinions, and the dont want to listen. LOVE IT!
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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get a busa, you'll be the envy all your friends
prob not..they would say your an idiot. and I wouldnt do that anyways...
i guess you didn't get the sarcasm, i really wonder who the real idiot is........
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 03:30 AM
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To the OP:

Oh, and also be sure to get and actually read: "A Twist of the Wrist" Vol. 2by Keith Code. Best $20 you'll ever spend on bike related stuff. All the bull**** mods won't gain you anything, but this book will.
Also, proficient Motorcycling by David L. Hough is also a great book for a first timer.
 
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