No spark
#11
diode failure on these bikes are common, and when it happens most people replace the ignition switch with an aftermarket one. some of these use a different color wire for the 9v source. pull your tail fairing off and look for the pink wire on your CDI box connector. check for 9v there to ground. if its 12, the diode has failed and needs to be replaced again.
#12
does the connector that this plugs into have 3 or 4 connections in it? I'm wondering if the ignition switch may have been replaced with the incorrect one.
#13
only 3 wires in the other side of the plug that comes off the harness too, just noticed the immobiliser has 4 wires coming off that, one of them is a pink wire and just found a pink wire at the icm and that only has 2v on it could this be my issue do you think?
#14
ah, you have the HISS system. 2v at the pink wire definitely sounds like its your smoking gun. you might have an issue with the immobilizer or for some reason it is not communicating with your key.
#15
Guys thank you all for your help, I have found the issue which is a bigger head ache, it was bought as a project being told carbs needed cleaning, but found no spark, the key had tape around it which I thought nothing of but pulled it off because it looked tatty, turns out the chip inside for the HISS is missing! Any advice on where to go from here or has anyone managed to bypass the system?
#16
Guys thank you all for your help, I have found the issue which is a bigger head ache, it was bought as a project being told carbs needed cleaning, but found no spark, the key had tape around it which I thought nothing of but pulled it off because it looked tatty, turns out the chip inside for the HISS is missing! Any advice on where to go from here or has anyone managed to bypass the system?
#17
Not really sure if you can bypass the HISS system as I do not recall seing anyone posting a successful solution.
You can get the ecu reprogrammed with new keys fro here:
https://www.carmoelectronics.co.uk/i...1351_1355_1359
Not cheap but should work, I sure if you send you current key along with the ECU they will cut the new keys to match so should not need to replace the locks.
There may be other firms offering this service.
Oh, I knowbits highly unlikely but did you get a little metal tag with you key as that is whay you need to get another one cut without reprogramming the ecu. Just a thought.
Keep us updated on how you get on
You can get the ecu reprogrammed with new keys fro here:
https://www.carmoelectronics.co.uk/i...1351_1355_1359
Not cheap but should work, I sure if you send you current key along with the ECU they will cut the new keys to match so should not need to replace the locks.
There may be other firms offering this service.
Oh, I knowbits highly unlikely but did you get a little metal tag with you key as that is whay you need to get another one cut without reprogramming the ecu. Just a thought.
Keep us updated on how you get on
Last edited by Al1040; 04-08-2024 at 04:29 PM.
#18
#19
at this point, I would suspect the systems work fine and that the key lacking the RFID tag is the reason why you have no spark. that being said, you will need to buy a new key and have it programmed to work with the HISS. if you are feeling ambitious, you could test the theory by using a variable dc power supply and inject 9v directly to the pink wire to check if you get spark. if that works, you could find a way to wire up switched 9v power using a zenner diode to the ignition to bypass the HISS. not entire sure that would work, but it would be worth a shot if you don't want to go the route of getting a new key.
Last edited by dannoxyz; 04-08-2024 at 05:59 PM.
#20
Guys thank you all for your help, I have found the issue which is a bigger head ache, it was bought as a project being told carbs needed cleaning, but found no spark, the key had tape around it which I thought nothing of but pulled it off because it looked tatty, turns out the chip inside for the HISS is missing! Any advice on where to go from here or has anyone managed to bypass the system?
Search around HISS ring for tape or glue that may be holding ID chip on? You only need to have chip about 5cm away from ring for it to read. That's one way to replace broken ignition-switch and use different key.
One way to fix is to get U.S.-spec ICM and verify pin-outs match yours. Otherwise, de-pin terminals and re-insert into connector position with same function. Put tape over HISS light on clocks.
Last edited by dannoxyz; 04-08-2024 at 05:58 PM.