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For all bolts I use what the FSM recommends Lithium based multipurpose grease NLGI #2, Molybdenum Disulfide grease and paste and lastly silicone grease. I don't use anti seize on spark plugs either.
Originally Posted by AC Delco
Do not use any type of anti-seize compound on spark plug threads. Doing this will decrease the amount of friction between the threads. The result of the lowered friction is that when the spark plug is torqued to the proper specification, the spark plug is turned too far into the cylinder head. This increases the likelihood of pulling or stripping the threads in the cylinder head. Over-tightening of a spark plug can cause stretching of the spark plug shell and could allow blowby to pass through the gasket seal between the shell and insulator. Over-tightening also results in extremely difficult removal.
Originally Posted by Autolite
We do not recommend the use of any anti seize products for installing spark plugs. Antiseize compounds are typically composed of metallic, electrically conductive ingredients. If antiseize compounds come in contact with the core nose of the plugs, it can lead to a misfire condition. Antiseize compounds can also have a torque multiplying effect when installing plugs. This can lead to thread distortion and thread galling resulting in cylinder head damage. Autolite spark plugs are nickel plated to resist the effects of corrosion and seizing. However, plug seizure is aggravated further when steel plugs are installed into aluminum cylinder heads for a long period of time. You may want to consider the periodic inspection of the plugs to reduce the likelihood of plug seizure during extended plug service intervals.
Originally Posted by NGK
The use of anti-seize on spark plugs is only recommended on those brands that
do not offer a special metal shell plating. Spark plugs that have a shiny silver
appearance on the metal body usually indicate that the spark plug is
manufactured with special metal shell plating.
http://www.ngkplugpro.ca/content/con...SparkPlugs.pdf
do not offer a special metal shell plating. Spark plugs that have a shiny silver
appearance on the metal body usually indicate that the spark plug is
manufactured with special metal shell plating.
http://www.ngkplugpro.ca/content/con...SparkPlugs.pdf
Originally Posted by Champion
Champion recommends that you do not use an anti-seize compound, since one has already been applied to the plugs at the factory.
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CJardine - yep it looks like the major players can not agree on "lube" or "not lube"
Would never use anti seize on spark plugs but I find the aluminium anti seize good for almost everything else.
Would never use anti seize on spark plugs but I find the aluminium anti seize good for almost everything else.
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Very surprised to read that.
I know of at least 20 guys that have sacked off the copper grease and gone to aluminium anti seize grease.
There bikes and mine have never had a seized bolt since.
Molyslip say there Aluslip is for extreme conditions - Anti-seize Compounds - Molyslip Atlantic Limited
And these guys say different too - Aluminum Based High Temperature Anti Seize | Extreme Pressure | Superior Industries, Inc.
I am an ex aerospace engineering tech and I am sticking with the aluminium anti seize.
I know of at least 20 guys that have sacked off the copper grease and gone to aluminium anti seize grease.
There bikes and mine have never had a seized bolt since.
Molyslip say there Aluslip is for extreme conditions - Anti-seize Compounds - Molyslip Atlantic Limited
And these guys say different too - Aluminum Based High Temperature Anti Seize | Extreme Pressure | Superior Industries, Inc.
I am an ex aerospace engineering tech and I am sticking with the aluminium anti seize.
I've read all the info and it seems both should work fine then for fasteners and expect the Aluminum should work even better then at high temperatures.
But If you say so many have had seized bolts why would a stainless fastener company say that ??
Anyway then which product would you recommend i get as will only need a small amount to put the bolts in/out
I thinking maybe i should just stay with the standard cast iron ones if it can cause that much problem.
Also what would happen then if i was to use standard type grease, would I still get seizures with that too?
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Hi again Dean0
I've read all the info and it seems both should work fine then for fasteners and expect the Aluminum should work even better then at high temperatures.
But If you say so many have had seized bolts why would a stainless fastener company say that ??
Anyway then which product would you recommend i get as will only need a small amount to put the bolts in/out
I thinking maybe i should just stay with the standard cast iron ones if it can cause that much problem.
Also what would happen then if i was to use standard type grease, would I still get seizures with that too?
I've read all the info and it seems both should work fine then for fasteners and expect the Aluminum should work even better then at high temperatures.
But If you say so many have had seized bolts why would a stainless fastener company say that ??
Anyway then which product would you recommend i get as will only need a small amount to put the bolts in/out
I thinking maybe i should just stay with the standard cast iron ones if it can cause that much problem.
Also what would happen then if i was to use standard type grease, would I still get seizures with that too?
Standard grease seems to wash away quickly with salt & bike wash products
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I use the wurth stuff from 1kg cans but you can buy small packs of it - WURTH MOTORCYCLE BRAKE PASTE 5.5g SACHET anti squeal / seize lubricant | eBay
Standard grease seems to wash away quickly with salt & bike wash products
Standard grease seems to wash away quickly with salt & bike wash products
Thanks again Dean0 for the advice on this.
£1.85 is rather expensive I'd say for 5g! ,So I will look for something around 250 g for £5-£10 if possible.
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I use the wurth stuff from 1kg cans but you can buy small packs of it - WURTH MOTORCYCLE BRAKE PASTE 5.5g SACHET anti squeal / seize lubricant | eBay
Standard grease seems to wash away quickly with salt & bike wash products
Standard grease seems to wash away quickly with salt & bike wash products
ALUMINIUM GREASE ANTI SEIZE COMPOUND | eBay
I will first try to find some in my local Auto car part sellers to see if i can save on P+P first
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I found this on ebay which seems pretty good value -
ALUMINIUM GREASE ANTI SEIZE COMPOUND | eBay
I will first try to find some in my local Auto car part sellers to see if i can save on P+P first
ALUMINIUM GREASE ANTI SEIZE COMPOUND | eBay
I will first try to find some in my local Auto car part sellers to see if i can save on P+P first
There is also this one - K12 Aluminium & Graphite Anti-Seize Compound 250 grams | eBay
I use the Wurth stuff because I can buy it at staff price through work - 1kg was just under £10 - will probably last a lifetime but I have it now.
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Tried in my local specialist car shop and they had not even heard of Aliminium
anti seize and had several tubs from different manufacturer of Copper Grease.
They even said to me if I get some to bring it in so they can see it!
After this I called my local Motorcycle Mechanic friend and asked his opinion on the stainless steel fasteners and copper grease and he has not had any problems and uses it himself.
SO I have also used Granville's Copper grease to put mine on and If there is a problem with it I will report back on here and then Dean0 can say "I told you so!"
anti seize and had several tubs from different manufacturer of Copper Grease.
They even said to me if I get some to bring it in so they can see it!
After this I called my local Motorcycle Mechanic friend and asked his opinion on the stainless steel fasteners and copper grease and he has not had any problems and uses it himself.
SO I have also used Granville's Copper grease to put mine on and If there is a problem with it I will report back on here and then Dean0 can say "I told you so!"
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Most of the guys I know that went to alu anti seize ride all year round and their bikes are tools rather than toys.