Some Beach!
I'm a little pissed at the moment, so a preemptive apology about the rant. So, this afternoon I went out to take the ol F3 out. I started is up and the battery was low. Could barely start the bike because the battery was so low. I was kinda like WTF? So, I pulled off the seat and check the voltage going into the battery. Sure enough, it was the voltage of the battery which was 11.83 volts wit the RPM at 4 K. With further inspection, I found that my plug into the RR was all black and brown along with the wires being exposed from the insulation melting off. Then I looked at the plug for the stator, black and brown along with the insulation melted off the wires. It also melted the battery case too. SOME BEACH!!! I don't have the funds to do this repair and I don't know when I'll get the money either. I am one broke a$$ SOB. That Fing RR was only two years!! So here is the low down, my RR went out and cooked the harness along with it. For all I know at the moment, the stator is toast too. The pig tail is for sure!! I just put everything back on and pushed the bike into the garage and walked away.
I really could have gone without this issue. Now my sorry a$$ is walking for a while. I guess on the bright side, at least I wasn't out in BFE and broke down from a dead charging system. I was in Anapolis the other day and I could have been stuck there. Man... that would have been a nasty tow bill. Thank goodness I broke down in the driveway.
I really could have gone without this issue. Now my sorry a$$ is walking for a while. I guess on the bright side, at least I wasn't out in BFE and broke down from a dead charging system. I was in Anapolis the other day and I could have been stuck there. Man... that would have been a nasty tow bill. Thank goodness I broke down in the driveway.
Last edited by marc0011; May 3, 2009 at 01:48 AM.
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That really sucks mate ...
Any idea what caused it as yet ?
I suppose hunting down good used wiring should not be too hard nor that expensive on Fleabay ? but the stator
chit , that really sucks big time...
Nothing worse than having this stuff happen when things are tight ...
sorry mate ... chin up and do what yu can hey
Let us know if you find out what caused it ...
Any idea what caused it as yet ?
I suppose hunting down good used wiring should not be too hard nor that expensive on Fleabay ? but the stator
chit , that really sucks big time...Nothing worse than having this stuff happen when things are tight ...
sorry mate ... chin up and do what yu can hey

Let us know if you find out what caused it ...
Yes, you're lucky that it happened in the driveway. If you shop around on ebay, GSXR regulators can be had for less than $50. As for the stator, I'd be surprised if it was bad too. It's an easy check with a meter. After you cool down, go check the stator, I think you'll be happily surprised.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Just frustrating kinda thing... especially when the original RR lasted 10 years and this RR only made it about 2. Tested the stator and it's showing that it's not any good. Could be from the fact that the pigtail is toasted though. When the weather clears up, I'll have to go out there and cut the wires down to the point of where they are good and test it again.
This is interesting. So, I have been pricing out a WORST scenario in terms of cost. I had to cut the pig tail about 3/4 of the way down to find good wire and my stator still didn't pass the test. So, a Wire harness, stator, and RR falls in at about $600 (paying maximum retail). Sure as HELL don't plan paying that!! In my search for cheaper Honda parts, I have found another bike that uses MANY parts from an F3 (engine, forks, meter bulbs, and rear drive). The bike I'm talking about is the CB600F Hornet. I didn't even know the thing existed until about 7 or 8 months ago. Something I have found that Honda does is charge more for an exact same part in one bike than another. For instance, in the F3 the 1.7W meter bulb runs $4+ (for a stupid meter bulb!!). I found that Honda used the same bulb in another bike (2003 TRX350TM) for half the cost in the TRX350TM.
Well, it appears to be a similar situation with the 2004 CB600F. The Stator and RR appear to be the same part and the stator is about $200 less than a stator from a F3 fiche. It's funny, they use many of the exact same pictures from the F3 engine fiche! I also found that the 1.7 meter bulb was cheaper than the TRX350TM!! So, I am in the process of trying to determine the difference in the stators. The part numbers aren't exactly the same but this could be due to the fact that it applies to a different bike. Been looking for parts on eBay from this thing but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot out there (DOOOHH!!)
One more interesting thing that I found, in the 2007 models. Honda put reverse struts on the CB600F that look that they just might bolt into an F3. It's funny how one gets distracted from their primary reason for looking at a bike fiche.
Well, it appears to be a similar situation with the 2004 CB600F. The Stator and RR appear to be the same part and the stator is about $200 less than a stator from a F3 fiche. It's funny, they use many of the exact same pictures from the F3 engine fiche! I also found that the 1.7 meter bulb was cheaper than the TRX350TM!! So, I am in the process of trying to determine the difference in the stators. The part numbers aren't exactly the same but this could be due to the fact that it applies to a different bike. Been looking for parts on eBay from this thing but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot out there (DOOOHH!!)
One more interesting thing that I found, in the 2007 models. Honda put reverse struts on the CB600F that look that they just might bolt into an F3. It's funny how one gets distracted from their primary reason for looking at a bike fiche.
Well, I am going out on a limb here and order a stator from a CB600F. I've found it for $160 and from all my research of part numbers and comparisons of schematics, I believe they are the same thing. I am just hoping that the output is the same (crossing fingers).
I haven't been able to determine what caused this catastrophic failure. I am guessing the RR stopped regulating the current which then allowed excess voltage to flow freely and then presented itself as over heating damage. This excess heat then melted the insulation on the wires and melted the RR & stator plugs in the harness. I'm having a tough time separating them, I am just going to have to cut the wires. I have also found that there is heat damaged in the surrounding wires of the harness. Either way, I believe the problem originated with the RR.
About the bolt in for the reverse struts, it doesn't look like it would be that easy. The triple clamps would have to be changed out and I have no idea if there would be enough clearance from the fairings. The other thing is that the CB600F has handle bars and there are clamps for this on the upper. Anyone wanting to experiment on this one?
I haven't been able to determine what caused this catastrophic failure. I am guessing the RR stopped regulating the current which then allowed excess voltage to flow freely and then presented itself as over heating damage. This excess heat then melted the insulation on the wires and melted the RR & stator plugs in the harness. I'm having a tough time separating them, I am just going to have to cut the wires. I have also found that there is heat damaged in the surrounding wires of the harness. Either way, I believe the problem originated with the RR.
About the bolt in for the reverse struts, it doesn't look like it would be that easy. The triple clamps would have to be changed out and I have no idea if there would be enough clearance from the fairings. The other thing is that the CB600F has handle bars and there are clamps for this on the upper. Anyone wanting to experiment on this one?
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