Shifting into First..
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03-19-2007, 02:28 PM
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RE: Shifting into First..
ORIGINAL: KidCr3nshaw
Come on man - I've done my best to not be an ***. No one ever said I was such a great driver.
Again, I reiterate - I have no idea about a Cavalier (
), but if that's the case (synchros), then there you have it. Can you not disable it? Certainly someone who had such a sweet ride with all the aftermarket goodies, you'd be aware of an override or a method of disabling... right? Ir is that just a $2000 paint job with a carbon fiber hood and some hood pins. I mean, come on man - we're not talking about onboard electronics preventing a car from downshifting...
We're talking about the ability to do so safely within the limits of your bike/cars mechanics. In that respect, yeah - I'd bang it down in first everytime. Disable that **** and you'd be fine. Maybe I could do it for you, haha.
Oh yeah - and I'm sure I could hand you your *** in a rear wheel drive V-8 if it's under 3,500lbs. If we're talking bikes, yeah - I'm getting there. I'll be at Heartland Park Topeka Raceway at least 2 times this summer - open up your bike and shut your mouth - we'll let the track times decide. I'm done.
Any vehicle can be downshifted, safely, within the vehicles mechanical limits, into first waaaayyyy before stopping. I know my F3 can be downshifted into first by blipping at about 6-7K RPM's.
Period - full stop.
Come on man - I've done my best to not be an ***. No one ever said I was such a great driver.
Again, I reiterate - I have no idea about a Cavalier (
), but if that's the case (synchros), then there you have it. Can you not disable it? Certainly someone who had such a sweet ride with all the aftermarket goodies, you'd be aware of an override or a method of disabling... right? Ir is that just a $2000 paint job with a carbon fiber hood and some hood pins. I mean, come on man - we're not talking about onboard electronics preventing a car from downshifting...We're talking about the ability to do so safely within the limits of your bike/cars mechanics. In that respect, yeah - I'd bang it down in first everytime. Disable that **** and you'd be fine. Maybe I could do it for you, haha.
Oh yeah - and I'm sure I could hand you your *** in a rear wheel drive V-8 if it's under 3,500lbs. If we're talking bikes, yeah - I'm getting there. I'll be at Heartland Park Topeka Raceway at least 2 times this summer - open up your bike and shut your mouth - we'll let the track times decide. I'm done.
Any vehicle can be downshifted, safely, within the vehicles mechanical limits, into first waaaayyyy before stopping. I know my F3 can be downshifted into first by blipping at about 6-7K RPM's.
Period - full stop.
#32
03-19-2007, 03:17 PM
RE: Shifting into First..
so people have been saying how agonizing this is to read, and how they're just here to help out and learn:
I learn a ton from this forum...I try to help out when I can with my limited knowledge, but another big part of why I'm here is because I think this shiit is pretty entertaining (rather than agonizing) to read. I don't pay much attention to what's going on in the US because this is much better. I'm in my third year out of 5 in undergrad and I would just much rather be reading this than studying for my Med/Surg exam I have in two hours. If it weren't for threads like these, this forum would be less succesful. Well done everyone!
I learn a ton from this forum...I try to help out when I can with my limited knowledge, but another big part of why I'm here is because I think this shiit is pretty entertaining (rather than agonizing) to read. I don't pay much attention to what's going on in the US because this is much better. I'm in my third year out of 5 in undergrad and I would just much rather be reading this than studying for my Med/Surg exam I have in two hours. If it weren't for threads like these, this forum would be less succesful. Well done everyone!
#33
03-19-2007, 03:56 PM
RE: Shifting into First..
Man this thread is kinda funny.I'm going to put my 2 cents in here anyways, but what I'm going to say has been said Over and over again.
Shifting into first is ntoa probelm. AS LONG AS YOU MATCH REVS. end of discussion.
car and bike trannys are different but both can be shifted in to fist will moving. AS LONG AS YOU MATCH REVS. or there is some kind of restrictor.
Shifting with out the clutch is okay for the bike, and wont hurt anything. Just remember to preload the shifter. Also shifting from 1st to 2nd with out the cluth is a little trick do to the fact that there is that N is in between them. I personally shift with out the clutch, and only use the clutch from 1st to 2nd and visa versa.
Someone posted up earlier about there being a 'false neutral' inbetween 1st and 2nd. It's bull, because it's not a "false neutral" it is a Neutral. getting stuck there just means you didn't complete the full shift move ment.
Nuff said.
Shifting into first is ntoa probelm. AS LONG AS YOU MATCH REVS. end of discussion.
car and bike trannys are different but both can be shifted in to fist will moving. AS LONG AS YOU MATCH REVS. or there is some kind of restrictor.
Shifting with out the clutch is okay for the bike, and wont hurt anything. Just remember to preload the shifter. Also shifting from 1st to 2nd with out the cluth is a little trick do to the fact that there is that N is in between them. I personally shift with out the clutch, and only use the clutch from 1st to 2nd and visa versa.
Someone posted up earlier about there being a 'false neutral' inbetween 1st and 2nd. It's bull, because it's not a "false neutral" it is a Neutral. getting stuck there just means you didn't complete the full shift move ment.
Nuff said.
#34
03-19-2007, 04:07 PM
RE: Shifting into First..
ORIGINAL: LlanoSV
Man this thread is kinda funny.I'm going to put my 2 cents in here anyways, but what I'm going to say has been said Over and over again.
Shifting into first is ntoa probelm. AS LONG AS YOU MATCH REVS. end of discussion.
car and bike trannys are different but both can be shifted in to fist will moving. AS LONG AS YOU MATCH REVS. or there is some kind of restrictor.
Shifting with out the clutch is okay for the bike, and wont hurt anything. Just remember to preload the shifter. Also shifting from 1st to 2nd with out the cluth is a little trick do to the fact that there is that N is in between them. I personally shift with out the clutch, and only use the clutch from 1st to 2nd and visa versa.
Someone posted up earlier about there being a 'false neutral' inbetween 1st and 2nd. It's bull, because it's not a "false neutral" it is a Neutral. getting stuck there just means you didn't complete the full shift move ment.
Nuff said.
Man this thread is kinda funny.I'm going to put my 2 cents in here anyways, but what I'm going to say has been said Over and over again.
Shifting into first is ntoa probelm. AS LONG AS YOU MATCH REVS. end of discussion.
car and bike trannys are different but both can be shifted in to fist will moving. AS LONG AS YOU MATCH REVS. or there is some kind of restrictor.
Shifting with out the clutch is okay for the bike, and wont hurt anything. Just remember to preload the shifter. Also shifting from 1st to 2nd with out the cluth is a little trick do to the fact that there is that N is in between them. I personally shift with out the clutch, and only use the clutch from 1st to 2nd and visa versa.
Someone posted up earlier about there being a 'false neutral' inbetween 1st and 2nd. It's bull, because it's not a "false neutral" it is a Neutral. getting stuck there just means you didn't complete the full shift move ment.
Nuff said.
DDCavi, I've got a left nut you can suck on while you ponder the mechanics of your clutch and it's relation to downshifting.
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03-20-2007, 08:45 PM
RE: Shifting into First..
ORIGINAL: Fatboy
Kid... is the guy in your Avatar boofing a beer?
Kid... is the guy in your Avatar boofing a beer?
If you haven't seen it, check it out. It's worth the watch. There are a couple of parts that are just completely horrid, but other than that it's good, clean fun!
DeeDee - considering the fact that your advice is to stay in second until you come to a complete stop - you have nothing to offer in this thread... be gone with your ignorance dip****.