CBR - Quick Thoughts on Issues required !!
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CBR - Quick Thoughts on Issues required !!
Hey all
First post here ..... great site BTW
Anyways
Driving home yesterday on the 97F3 when I can hear the engine sound like its struggling .... I cranked the throttle a couple times thinking that would clear up the issues
Nope !!
Next thought ....
I need to get outta the way of this no talent a$$ clown bearing down on me in his Humvee !!
Next thought ....
Low on gas ?? ..... Probably ...... So I pulled off to the side of the road.
Turned off the bike
Switched to Reserve
Turned the bike back on
Made the attempt to start it
It started right away .... YAY !!
Then 2 seconds later ..... everything went 100% DEAD !!
No lights, no guages no vroom no nothing !
The battery is about a year old, so I am thinking that is not the problem ...... although I am 100% sure its dead now !! hehe
Any ideas where I should start looking before the bike takes a ride to the local Honda dealership ?
Thanks all
Tim Kent
Winnipeg Canada
First post here ..... great site BTW
Anyways
Driving home yesterday on the 97F3 when I can hear the engine sound like its struggling .... I cranked the throttle a couple times thinking that would clear up the issues
Nope !!
Next thought ....
I need to get outta the way of this no talent a$$ clown bearing down on me in his Humvee !!
Next thought ....
Low on gas ?? ..... Probably ...... So I pulled off to the side of the road.
Turned off the bike
Switched to Reserve
Turned the bike back on
Made the attempt to start it
It started right away .... YAY !!
Then 2 seconds later ..... everything went 100% DEAD !!
No lights, no guages no vroom no nothing !
The battery is about a year old, so I am thinking that is not the problem ...... although I am 100% sure its dead now !! hehe
Any ideas where I should start looking before the bike takes a ride to the local Honda dealership ?
Thanks all
Tim Kent
Winnipeg Canada
Last edited by 96th_Malice; 09-22-2009 at 04:18 PM.
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#3
Regulator/rectifier? They are known to go bad on F3s but I've been lucky enough to never have this issue. Have you checked to make sure you battery connections are good? I'm ruling electrical due to the fact that you have lost all lights/power and not just fuel.
#4
OK
Pulled off the seat
everything appeared to be connected to the battery fine
I turned the ignition to on
DEAD .... No lights ... Nothing still ( as suspected )
SO
I hooked up the battery charger to it the battery THEN turned the bike on
Full lights and it started
As soon as I pulled the charger off the battery, lights began to fade !!
Eventually cranjking the throttle to increase revs killed the engine and all was dead again
Now I know the battery is dead from the ride home yesterday ... so I will let it charge for a good couple hours before putting it back in the bike.
Now what I wanna know is ..... I am pretty much a put gas in it type ogf rider so being mechanical is a bit of a stretch ....... BUT if the battery holds the charge then dies again shortly into a ride is it my battery or alternator ( dont know what the alternator is called on a bike sorry ) or both.
the electrical is obviously fine .
I know ...... If I could find a long enough extension cord I could just ride with the battery charger plugged in and sitting on my lap !!
Any other insight would be awesome
Thanks
Tim Kent
Winnipeg Canada
Pulled off the seat
everything appeared to be connected to the battery fine
I turned the ignition to on
DEAD .... No lights ... Nothing still ( as suspected )
SO
I hooked up the battery charger to it the battery THEN turned the bike on
Full lights and it started
As soon as I pulled the charger off the battery, lights began to fade !!
Eventually cranjking the throttle to increase revs killed the engine and all was dead again
Now I know the battery is dead from the ride home yesterday ... so I will let it charge for a good couple hours before putting it back in the bike.
Now what I wanna know is ..... I am pretty much a put gas in it type ogf rider so being mechanical is a bit of a stretch ....... BUT if the battery holds the charge then dies again shortly into a ride is it my battery or alternator ( dont know what the alternator is called on a bike sorry ) or both.
the electrical is obviously fine .
I know ...... If I could find a long enough extension cord I could just ride with the battery charger plugged in and sitting on my lap !!
Any other insight would be awesome
Thanks
Tim Kent
Winnipeg Canada
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Everyone who's reg stuffs up always suspects its the battery, mine was 8 yo, so I thought it had to be that. Replaced it & went riding, thank god it was not until the next day & I was almost home before it went again.
I suspect Mr Honda has shares in the Reg replacement companies for F2's & F3's (have heard that some VFR's also suffer from the same thing)
I suspect Mr Honda has shares in the Reg replacement companies for F2's & F3's (have heard that some VFR's also suffer from the same thing)
#7
I had my Reg/rec. go bad on my F3. I was able to nurse it home though. I replaced it with one for a 05 GSXR. Took a little wiring work but it now starts charging at 2500-3000 rpm. There are some how to do it threads for the conversion here on CBRF. Or you can just buy the OEM R/r and plug it in. Only requires removal of two small bolts after removing the right side rear plastic.
Let us know what you do and how it works out.
Mikey
Let us know what you do and how it works out.
Mikey
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Morning all
Thanks for the responces. I am going to look into the reg option for sure. Any of my freinds who I have asked ( all drive cars for the record ) say it sounds like the stator / alternator.
Again, I am making the statement that I am the FURTHEST thing from being mechanically inclined and this bike has been rock solid for me since 97 ... other that a battery, and clutch and the usual maint and wear & tear itmes that get replaced every couple years.
Anyways, I have learned more from you guys and this site in the last 24 hours and wanted to say "thanks"
Alright ..... now I have to wait 8 hours 'till I get off work to check out the next possible problem.
The battery is fully charged again, so I could go for another ride anyways ...... 'till it dies again
Riding season here is only 7 - 8 months MAX, then its -40C, so not getting to ride sux !!
Thanks guys
Now I need to find where the reg/rec is on the CBR ....... right side huh ?
Thanks for the responces. I am going to look into the reg option for sure. Any of my freinds who I have asked ( all drive cars for the record ) say it sounds like the stator / alternator.
Again, I am making the statement that I am the FURTHEST thing from being mechanically inclined and this bike has been rock solid for me since 97 ... other that a battery, and clutch and the usual maint and wear & tear itmes that get replaced every couple years.
Anyways, I have learned more from you guys and this site in the last 24 hours and wanted to say "thanks"
Alright ..... now I have to wait 8 hours 'till I get off work to check out the next possible problem.
The battery is fully charged again, so I could go for another ride anyways ...... 'till it dies again
Riding season here is only 7 - 8 months MAX, then its -40C, so not getting to ride sux !!
Thanks guys
Now I need to find where the reg/rec is on the CBR ....... right side huh ?
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right side (if youre sitting on it), behind the rear fairing. take that off, and you'll see a couple black boxes. its the skinny one thats not very thick, and its about 2.5" by 2". If you just rode, it should be hot as hell to the touch (unless its already dead lol)
it will look similar to this one: http://www.kc-kwan.com/online/pics/o...r_honda_01.jpg
it will look similar to this one: http://www.kc-kwan.com/online/pics/o...r_honda_01.jpg
Last edited by intiractive; 09-23-2009 at 10:08 AM.
#10
My bike did the same thing a couple months ago with a month old battery. It turned out that it was a faulty battery. As soon as I put jumper cables on the bike fired right up no problem. I'd try this first. I was trouble shooting and replacing parts for 2 weeks before I figured it out! Good luck!