pros and cons 1000cc vs 600cc
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pros and cons 1000cc vs 600cc
I'm new in the motorcycle world. I'm about 20 and weight a whopping 120 lbs. I rode a 1000RR a little bit, but they are so damn heavy, but I'm willing to tough it out if its that much better of a bike. Any help on the pros and cons with 600's vs 1000's. I'm parting out my 2007 1000rr right cause engine went boom boom. So in the spring when I go to buy one I want to know what to get
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If you're new too riding stay the f*&k off a 1k for many years too come.
At the most a 600 depending on how much riding experience you have.
Start small n learn to 'ride' then move up the ladder as years/miles/experience build.
At the most a 600 depending on how much riding experience you have.
Start small n learn to 'ride' then move up the ladder as years/miles/experience build.
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Tbh I seriously doubt there's a need for much discussion. He's making up reasons not to go with the 1k (too heavy? I know women on 'busas bout that weight). But he doesn't want to 'downgrade' having had a 1000rr already.
600. Unless you're a track day kinda guy, the liter bike is wasted power in your hands atm. Only time the bike's weight really comes into play for most day to day riders is when they gotta pick it up after dropping it. Speaking from experience, a 600 F3 weighs about a back sprain in full gear
But the rest of the time, that weight doesn't exist.
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You're just sooooo cuddly to the n00bs with liter bikes
Tbh I seriously doubt there's a need for much discussion. He's making up reasons not to go with the 1k (too heavy? I know women on 'busas bout that weight). But he doesn't want to 'downgrade' having had a 1000rr already.
600. Unless you're a track day kinda guy, the liter bike is wasted power in your hands atm. Only time the bike's weight really comes into play for most day to day riders is when they gotta pick it up after dropping it. Speaking from experience, a 600 F3 weighs about a back sprain in full gear But the rest of the time, that weight doesn't exist.
Tbh I seriously doubt there's a need for much discussion. He's making up reasons not to go with the 1k (too heavy? I know women on 'busas bout that weight). But he doesn't want to 'downgrade' having had a 1000rr already.
600. Unless you're a track day kinda guy, the liter bike is wasted power in your hands atm. Only time the bike's weight really comes into play for most day to day riders is when they gotta pick it up after dropping it. Speaking from experience, a 600 F3 weighs about a back sprain in full gear
But the rest of the time, that weight doesn't exist.last few generations of 1k's dont wiegh much more than the 600's.
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Agreed the 1000s even a 07 is pretty light, but this isn’t the questions that we were asked gentlemen (and ladies). Pros and Cons of 600s and 1000s? Well FIRST and foremost, how much riding experience do you have? This plays A LOT into what you should get. If the 07 1000rr was your first sport bike that you have driven I’d recommend the 600, however if you never put the 07 down (dropping or laying it over) and you were a good driver with driving experience (ei bikes before your 1000) not a “squid” (google it) Go for another 1000.
Now if you weren’t comfortable on set 07 1000rr, because it was too heavy. Ect. The 600rr is definitely what you need. The reasons as to why I say this include; It is easier to learn on, because of the lack of power as to compared to the 1000rr (not saying the 600rr is a slouch because that isn’t true, you wont be able to ride the bike to its potential on the street.) and the great handling the bike has makes the learning curve much faster on the 600. It is a lot more forgivable compared to the 1000rr, you don’t have to have as good throttle control in the curves, meaning you can let loose by accident or on purpose. The power curve on a 600 isn’t nearly a erratic as a 1000 you don’t have the huge torque down in the low and mid rpms which makes her a lot easier to get into coming out of a corner with a lower chance of putting her down. Most 600s as well as 1000s are pretty easy to work on if you have mechanical knowledge ei changing oil, filters, and other common preventive maintenance. As far as costs for replacement parts, 600cc bike parts are generally easier to find, mostly because of the vast amount of 600s out there. Overall the 600rr is a WELL rounded bike, its flick-ability, great engine which the newer ones have a pretty good amount of power as well as a good power curve make it a GREAT BIKE. Its even great looking!
Now the 1000rr that squids think are the “hype” and they love to hop on NEVER having rode a newer sport bike with the power this type of bike has. The newer 1000s (as well as the older 954s!!) Have crazy torque in low and mid range and most of them weight only a few more pounds than their 600 counter parts. But what makes these bikes SO dangerous is the inexperienced driver/rider. Someone who has never rode a bike shouldn’t honestly be on a 1000 liter bike of any kind because they simply wont be able to handle it. Remember that first curve you took on the street at high speeds that scared the **** outta you when you first started riding? Imagine that on a monster of a bike which the wrong move, ei mashing the throttle, braking wrong, using too much rear brake locking up back tire, can all spell disaster as it can with any bike just amplified on the 1000. The newer 1000s even your old 07 are GREAT bikes, good power, great handling, great brakes, light and flick-able. But these bike aren’t as forgivable they will put you on the asphalt really quick and with vengeance. They are big power houses that are really fun to ride but should only be rode by people that are good experienced riders and know how to react in certain situations.
In conclusion I have NO SAY as to what you buy, I don’t know you, have never rode with you. But I can tell you that if you are comfortable in yourself as a driver/rider of a 1000 and you want it go for it. However if you have any doubt in your mind about your riding experience and you need to learn a lot and you want to be safe about it. Be level headed and go for the 600 they are truly GREAT machines and they are fun as hell to ride. Either way you want to feel comfortable on your bike and most of all be safe on your bike. Remember if you want that 1000 but you doubt yourself you can always go for the 600, drive it for a while get to be a good rider and sell it (resale value on 600s are pretty good because of popularity) and buy that 1000 you always wanted and be safe on it.
I hope this helps, and one more thing always wear gear!
Now if you weren’t comfortable on set 07 1000rr, because it was too heavy. Ect. The 600rr is definitely what you need. The reasons as to why I say this include; It is easier to learn on, because of the lack of power as to compared to the 1000rr (not saying the 600rr is a slouch because that isn’t true, you wont be able to ride the bike to its potential on the street.) and the great handling the bike has makes the learning curve much faster on the 600. It is a lot more forgivable compared to the 1000rr, you don’t have to have as good throttle control in the curves, meaning you can let loose by accident or on purpose. The power curve on a 600 isn’t nearly a erratic as a 1000 you don’t have the huge torque down in the low and mid rpms which makes her a lot easier to get into coming out of a corner with a lower chance of putting her down. Most 600s as well as 1000s are pretty easy to work on if you have mechanical knowledge ei changing oil, filters, and other common preventive maintenance. As far as costs for replacement parts, 600cc bike parts are generally easier to find, mostly because of the vast amount of 600s out there. Overall the 600rr is a WELL rounded bike, its flick-ability, great engine which the newer ones have a pretty good amount of power as well as a good power curve make it a GREAT BIKE. Its even great looking!
Now the 1000rr that squids think are the “hype” and they love to hop on NEVER having rode a newer sport bike with the power this type of bike has. The newer 1000s (as well as the older 954s!!) Have crazy torque in low and mid range and most of them weight only a few more pounds than their 600 counter parts. But what makes these bikes SO dangerous is the inexperienced driver/rider. Someone who has never rode a bike shouldn’t honestly be on a 1000 liter bike of any kind because they simply wont be able to handle it. Remember that first curve you took on the street at high speeds that scared the **** outta you when you first started riding? Imagine that on a monster of a bike which the wrong move, ei mashing the throttle, braking wrong, using too much rear brake locking up back tire, can all spell disaster as it can with any bike just amplified on the 1000. The newer 1000s even your old 07 are GREAT bikes, good power, great handling, great brakes, light and flick-able. But these bike aren’t as forgivable they will put you on the asphalt really quick and with vengeance. They are big power houses that are really fun to ride but should only be rode by people that are good experienced riders and know how to react in certain situations.
In conclusion I have NO SAY as to what you buy, I don’t know you, have never rode with you. But I can tell you that if you are comfortable in yourself as a driver/rider of a 1000 and you want it go for it. However if you have any doubt in your mind about your riding experience and you need to learn a lot and you want to be safe about it. Be level headed and go for the 600 they are truly GREAT machines and they are fun as hell to ride. Either way you want to feel comfortable on your bike and most of all be safe on your bike. Remember if you want that 1000 but you doubt yourself you can always go for the 600, drive it for a while get to be a good rider and sell it (resale value on 600s are pretty good because of popularity) and buy that 1000 you always wanted and be safe on it.
I hope this helps, and one more thing always wear gear!
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heh, no worries bubba
I twigged on the weight thing because it hints at inexperience. A person with significant riding experience shouldn't have trouble with a bike's weight. There'd be a bit of an adjustment riding on a new machine. But that'd be a few weeks, a month at most.
For his old 1k to have been giving him weight issues, enough to mention it as a factor in choosing the next bike, seems to say he didn't have a lot of miles under him on any bike. Only time I've noticed my bike's weight (and remember how much a 95 F3 weighs) is when I did something stupid.
Like pull straight into a parking spot on a decline and then have to muscle her out backwards
I twigged on the weight thing because it hints at inexperience. A person with significant riding experience shouldn't have trouble with a bike's weight. There'd be a bit of an adjustment riding on a new machine. But that'd be a few weeks, a month at most.
For his old 1k to have been giving him weight issues, enough to mention it as a factor in choosing the next bike, seems to say he didn't have a lot of miles under him on any bike. Only time I've noticed my bike's weight (and remember how much a 95 F3 weighs) is when I did something stupid.
Like pull straight into a parking spot on a decline and then have to muscle her out backwards
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IMHO a 600 is more than enough for a new rider. The main 'pro' being that the power is much less fierce and therefore easier to control and much less likely to catch the rider out. Also in capable hands a 600 can be as fast as anything on the road (unless you're talking blasting along long straight roads as fast as the bike will go, but where's the fun and skill in that??). The con for me with a 600 is that they have no torque.
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IMHO a 600 is more than enough for a new rider. The main 'pro' being that the power is much less fierce and therefore easier to control and much less likely to catch the rider out. Also in capable hands a 600 can be as fast as anything on the road (unless you're talking blasting along long straight roads as fast as the bike will go, but where's the fun and skill in that??). The con for me with a 600 is that they have no torque.
