been riding my friends 1k ninja special edition
A bike is only as good at its rider.........simple as that. Doesn't matter what you bought, what mods you do to it, or what gear you wear, it ALL comes down to that one, simple little sentence. An MSF-course graduate on a 600 will OWN a "self taught" noob riding a 1000cc any day of the week.
I agree to a pointevery ridder that passes the MSF class is not a good ridder,or anywhere near ready to take on600 rron the road with the false security that they are ready, just because they took the class. I took the class to get my M class in IL I will tell you several people in the class have no business being on a bike. Just do not have the ablity to ride anything much bigger then the 250 rebel if that. "the hardest thing about this class is getting in" was the first thing said to us in the class,and only 1 person did not pass.I am no expert but I have been ridding bikes for over20 years and several people that passed are not ready to ride on the streets.
^^ True. An MSF course is only as good as the instructor.........but that discussion is worth a thread of its own.
The point of me even bringing up the 600cc MSF rider vs. 1000cc noob rider was to show that new riders just jumping onto a 1000cc sport bike with no prior experience on motorcycles, and teaching themselves how to ride without proper instruction IS a foolish idea. That's all. I thought I was being clever.
The point of me even bringing up the 600cc MSF rider vs. 1000cc noob rider was to show that new riders just jumping onto a 1000cc sport bike with no prior experience on motorcycles, and teaching themselves how to ride without proper instruction IS a foolish idea. That's all. I thought I was being clever.
My MSF class was a joke (lake worth Florida). Great to get that endorsement on the D/L but???
I'm a self learner, learned on a F4 from 99-03 - 28,000 miles. Never got my license so figured I would do it properly with my liter bike. The class was an absolute joke- ace'd the written and driven on a f'ed up buell.
I'm a self learner, learned on a F4 from 99-03 - 28,000 miles. Never got my license so figured I would do it properly with my liter bike. The class was an absolute joke- ace'd the written and driven on a f'ed up buell.
^^ You have the state/city funded MSF courses with retard instructors and programs............
........and then you have the independant MSF courses that go through dealerships. The best one I've been to so far was the "RidersEdge" program through the Harley Davidson dealerships. EXTREMELY incredible class, and I recommend it to anyone looking to ride, or has even been riding and wants to refresh skills and shake their bad habits. It was a 3-day classroom instruction at the dealer, then 2 FULL days of riding drills on the course. Then you have to pass a rigorous final exam which is actually very difficult (and glad it was). One person in my class just couldn't grasp it, and should never be on a bike, ever. She would have passed the state test perfectly and ended up killing herself the same day. The instructors on this class though really worked with her, and at the end, they told her that she just wasn't grasping the concept of riding and failed her. That's EXACTLY what the state MSF courses should be doing..........but then again, if it's a standard "we only offer it because the state makes us" type of class, it's going to be crap.
........and then you have the independant MSF courses that go through dealerships. The best one I've been to so far was the "RidersEdge" program through the Harley Davidson dealerships. EXTREMELY incredible class, and I recommend it to anyone looking to ride, or has even been riding and wants to refresh skills and shake their bad habits. It was a 3-day classroom instruction at the dealer, then 2 FULL days of riding drills on the course. Then you have to pass a rigorous final exam which is actually very difficult (and glad it was). One person in my class just couldn't grasp it, and should never be on a bike, ever. She would have passed the state test perfectly and ended up killing herself the same day. The instructors on this class though really worked with her, and at the end, they told her that she just wasn't grasping the concept of riding and failed her. That's EXACTLY what the state MSF courses should be doing..........but then again, if it's a standard "we only offer it because the state makes us" type of class, it's going to be crap.
ORIGINAL: steve455
my first bike was a 929,im glad i did not get anything smaller,everyone i know that got a 600 wants a 1000 2 weeks later.
my first bike was a 929,im glad i did not get anything smaller,everyone i know that got a 600 wants a 1000 2 weeks later.


