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Some pretty good tips from Schwantz

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Old 12-11-2010, 07:51 PM
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Post Some pretty good tips from Schwantz

1. Increase your speed incrementally.
2. Find and use reference points for braking, turn-in and apex.
3. Focus your vision way out front.
4. Select a gear that uses 60-80 percent of redline at the exit.
5. Be loose on the bike and bars, not rigid.
6. Get body position set for corners early.
7. Hang off slightly--and comfortably--in corners.
8. Use your legs to move you around the bike, not your arms.
9. Go slow when learning a new track. Get the flow first.
10. In the wet, be super-smooth with all control inputs.
11. Ride with the ***** of your feet on the pegs at all times.
12. Weight the inside peg entering corners.
13. Weight the outside peg at the apex and exiting corners.
14. Perfect practice makes perfect--helps muscle memory.
15. Ignore the rear brake.
16. Walk the track if possible.
17. Don't apex early; late apex whenever possible.
18. Get to neutral throttle ASAP approaching the apex.
19. Apply smooth but forceful throttle exiting a corner.
20. Keep body movements small or smooth while cornering.
21. Braking distances increase exponentially with speed.
22. Monitor chassis feedback through hands, feet and butt when braking.
23. Ease off the brakes smoothly as you lean the bike into a corner.
24. Brake in segments: first 10 percent (to settle chassis), then 75 percent (hard braking), then 15 percent (releasing smooth toward apex).
25. Get hard braking done early; don't wait till you see God!
26. Passing tip: Let off the brakes sooner and carry a bit more speed into the corner.
27. Release the brake more slowly than you initially grab it.
28. Ride a bicycle for leg strength and cardiovascular training; it'll make you a better rider!
29. Control panic by being in control at all times; resist the temptation to go beyond your personal comfort envelope.
30. If you get in too hot, look where you want to go, relax and will yourself to make the corner.
31. Resist the temptation to tuck completely behind the bubble; sitting higher allows you to see more, which helps nail your braking and turn-in points.
32. If you crash, get wide. It resists flipping.
 
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Old 12-11-2010, 08:19 PM
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Good stuff from the master
 
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Old 12-11-2010, 09:40 PM
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Yep true dat, reading some of Kevin Cameron's stuff lately (Top Dead Center) ......... great
reading the stuff of yesteryear and the privateers etc......... you get the real low down
of what some of these Guys went through to get to where they did ..... a real
test of skills and above all the most elusive of requirements .......... pure .....LUCK !
 
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i agree with everything except, 7 an 11. i think correct body position is gonna be slightly different for everyone, but you still have to get off the bike, especially your upper body. And while doing this there is no way to keep on the ball of ur outside foot, u gotta plant your outside foot
 
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:38 AM
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yeah well each to their own style

But 11 ....speaks directly to 31 .......for greater control overall. On the ***** of your feet
facilitates quicker response & optimal control imo ..... Just all around way more flexible and "loose".
 
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yeah but while leaned over there is no way your outside foot will be on ball of your foot.
 
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:09 PM
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....... Sorry can't agree with ya on that opinion
Most people I have seen myself included ride on the
***** of their feet while racing, makes for way more
stability & control also an easier pivot point !
Flat footing it on the inside can cause a boot to drag
under ...... or worse ..... and flat footing it on the outside
is way slower to pivot the bike and your body mass.
On the ***** of your feet is the best and most athletic
stance when racing a bike for greater faster control.




 
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:29 PM
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I always ride with the ***** of my feet on the pegs. In corners, I don't have any problem keeping them that way. It just seems I am leaning farther over than I am. And Sprock is correct. Riding more flat footed one could drag ones toes and get ones foot drug back under the peg. This can lead to bad things happening.

I am not sure about #15 though. Maybe it's just something I need to learn, but I use some rear brake. I understand the thinking behind it - no rear brake, no rear wheel lock up. I tend to use a light touch on the rear brake. Maybe I have a sense of where the lock up point is, idk.

#32 - I am not sure what he means by this. Anyone?
 
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:41 PM
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By 32 I think he's referring to "run out" .....head for the outside as wide as
you can..... when you come in waay to hot and the immediate future is looking
super tight & very challenging

15 ...is me I never use it ... must check it make sure it still works

But yeah man me too ***** of my feet on the pegs ..... it's just the way.

To be honest this riding posture just inspires an extra level of confidence for me
makes ya way more agile .
 

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Old 12-12-2010, 10:12 PM
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Here is a couple of pics from CMP. First one is turn 12 and the second is turn 7. I know I am not leaned over that far but it feels like I am. Anyway....I can see that my outside foot is probably a little farther forward than necessary.



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