Some pretty good tips from Schwantz
1. Increase your speed incrementally.
2. Find and use reference points for braking, turn-in and apex. 3. Focus your vision way out front. 4. Select a gear that uses 60-80 percent of redline at the exit. 5. Be loose on the bike and bars, not rigid. 6. Get body position set for corners early. 7. Hang off slightly--and comfortably--in corners. 8. Use your legs to move you around the bike, not your arms. 9. Go slow when learning a new track. Get the flow first. 10. In the wet, be super-smooth with all control inputs. 11. Ride with the balls of your feet on the pegs at all times. 12. Weight the inside peg entering corners. 13. Weight the outside peg at the apex and exiting corners. 14. Perfect practice makes perfect--helps muscle memory. 15. Ignore the rear brake. 16. Walk the track if possible. 17. Don't apex early; late apex whenever possible. 18. Get to neutral throttle ASAP approaching the apex. 19. Apply smooth but forceful throttle exiting a corner. 20. Keep body movements small or smooth while cornering. 21. Braking distances increase exponentially with speed. 22. Monitor chassis feedback through hands, feet and butt when braking. 23. Ease off the brakes smoothly as you lean the bike into a corner. 24. Brake in segments: first 10 percent (to settle chassis), then 75 percent (hard braking), then 15 percent (releasing smooth toward apex). 25. Get hard braking done early; don't wait till you see God! 26. Passing tip: Let off the brakes sooner and carry a bit more speed into the corner. 27. Release the brake more slowly than you initially grab it. 28. Ride a bicycle for leg strength and cardiovascular training; it'll make you a better rider! 29. Control panic by being in control at all times; resist the temptation to go beyond your personal comfort envelope. 30. If you get in too hot, look where you want to go, relax and will yourself to make the corner. 31. Resist the temptation to tuck completely behind the bubble; sitting higher allows you to see more, which helps nail your braking and turn-in points. 32. If you crash, get wide. It resists flipping. |
Good stuff from the master :D
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Yep true dat, reading some of Kevin Cameron's stuff lately (Top Dead Center) ......... great
reading the stuff of yesteryear and the privateers etc......... you get the real low down of what some of these Guys went through to get to where they did ..... a real test of skills and above all the most elusive of requirements .......... pure .....LUCK ! |
i agree with everything except, 7 an 11. i think correct body position is gonna be slightly different for everyone, but you still have to get off the bike, especially your upper body. And while doing this there is no way to keep on the ball of ur outside foot, u gotta plant your outside foot
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yeah well each to their own style
But 11 ....speaks directly to 31 .......for greater control overall. On the balls of your feet facilitates quicker response & optimal control imo ..... Just all around way more flexible and "loose". |
yeah but while leaned over there is no way your outside foot will be on ball of your foot.
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not so
:)....... Sorry can't agree with ya on that opinion
Most people I have seen myself included ride on the balls of their feet while racing, makes for way more stability & control also an easier pivot point ! Flat footing it on the inside can cause a boot to drag under ...... or worse ..... and flat footing it on the outside is way slower to pivot the bike and your body mass. On the balls of your feet is the best and most athletic stance when racing a bike for greater faster control. http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/..._lean_view.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Mvhjidbvdz...600/hotyam.jpg |
I always ride with the balls of my feet on the pegs. In corners, I don't have any problem keeping them that way. It just seems I am leaning farther over than I am. And Sprock is correct. Riding more flat footed one could drag ones toes and get ones foot drug back under the peg. This can lead to bad things happening.
I am not sure about #15 though. Maybe it's just something I need to learn, but I use some rear brake. I understand the thinking behind it - no rear brake, no rear wheel lock up. I tend to use a light touch on the rear brake. Maybe I have a sense of where the lock up point is, idk. #32 - I am not sure what he means by this. Anyone? |
By 32 I think he's referring to "run out" .....head for the outside as wide as
you can..... when you come in waay to hot and the immediate future is looking super tight & very challenging :D 15 ...is me I never use it ... must check it make sure it still works :) But yeah man me too balls of my feet on the pegs ..... it's just the way. To be honest this riding posture just inspires an extra level of confidence for me makes ya way more agile . |
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Here is a couple of pics from CMP. First one is turn 12 and the second is turn 7. I know I am not leaned over that far but it feels like I am. Anyway....I can see that my outside foot is probably a little farther forward than necessary.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2..._6056606_n.jpg Attachment 51955 |
i was saying on the toes inside, flat outside, casey stoner....
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I could probably do that if I had different rear sets. Though I sat on an STT instructors bike and the way his rear sets were set up would take a lot of getting used to for me.
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yeah its amazing how much small changes make to the bike, my bike was dropped about 4mm in the front an i raised it up after my first track day for more clearance, an my turn in became much slower, ill be adding about 5mm of washers to my rear shock this winter to get it back to where it was
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I have always paid attention to the two philosophies about the outside foot. I have always stayed on the balls, but I noticed almost all MotoGP riders use their heal on the outside. They must know something I don't. I tried it for an entire day and could not get comfortable. Maybe with more tweaks to positioning it becomes better, but for now I'm perfectly happy using the balls always.
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Yeah I think motogp riders are in those corners for several seconds, that's why they need that extra "planted on the bike" feel to stay ON the bike. But quick transitions and lack of long corners require you to be able to dance on the bike from side to side. Also the rear brake thing is weird because I have heard racers swear by it as a midcorner correction tool
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Can someone explain 'neutral throttle' please? It's not a term i've heard before, then again we have no tracks in Guernsey :D
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Aaah, I see thanks for that Joe
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I just got back from Jennings GP over the weekend. I got to ride with all different skill level riders and picked up tips from all of them.
My biggest problem is body position. I need to work on that , my suspension, and I need some grip tape on the tank. My best lap time was a 1:36 . I know I could go much faster if I correct those things mentioned. Going to try to get a couple of days in at NJMP this summer as I live only 20mins away from the track. Thanks for all the helpful hints in this thread. |
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...guTV0hTY&gl=US.
This is the link to a couple laps early on in my session . A friend of mine was recording . |
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