Fear of chicken strips...
#21
04-16-2008 | 10:12 PM
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RE: Fear of chicken strips...
i remember after i first got my drivers license, i would take my car to a slick blacktop parking lot after it rained. I figured that would be the worst condition (besides ice) that i could place myself in if i had to make an emergency manuver. I learned a lot about the side loads i could endure before my tires would lose grip. i encourage everyone to do that.
Same goes with a bike. I took it to a parking lot and did the same thing. If you skid while leaning on a bike, then you've got to fork over money for damages, so you have to be careful. I've done it a few times on my bike, and was amazed by the fact that my bike could outperform myself.
Same goes with a bike. I took it to a parking lot and did the same thing. If you skid while leaning on a bike, then you've got to fork over money for damages, so you have to be careful. I've done it a few times on my bike, and was amazed by the fact that my bike could outperform myself.
#22
04-17-2008 | 12:39 AM
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#23
04-17-2008 | 11:06 AM
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RE: Fear of chicken strips...
This is a great post, there are many good points here! I too would agree with reading Twist Of The Wrist vol. 2 also, to learn from the principals of riding and become more educated. Ride within your limits and enjoy your time, try not to worry what other people think and always respect your bike. If you want to know the feeling of going faster, leaning the bike over more, etcplease do it on the track. I sold my 929 a few years back and bought my F4i and half of my friends said I was crazy, didn't understand it, they said I was "downgrading". I was starting to ride a bit smarter for the street and wanted to be more comfortable. I do more of what I would call a sport/touring kind of riding now, I get on it a little here and there but always want to be safe and be able to ride another day. It's important to keep all things in perspective... Is this because I'm 33 now? Is it because I have kids? Is it because I have seen friends lay their bikes down in front of me or slide off the road hurting themselves and totaling their bikes? Is it because even when my best friend was trying to be careful he was hit by a guy running a red light andwas flown to Shock Trauma in Baltimore and spent over a year at Johns Hopkins and has had I don't know how many surgeries? YES TO ALL OF THESE. I have been riding on the street for apx 18 years and seen lots of things as many others on here have as well. This is a great forum to see so many people taking the time to come forward with their wisdom and experience to help guide another rider. Your at 9 months of riding now which is great, keep it up! I listen to everyone, from someone who has been riding a month to the old timers who have been riding decades as there is always more to learn. Since your posting here and asking honest questions it sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders, keep it that way and have fun.[/align] [/align] Slolane[/align]
#24
04-17-2008 | 07:46 PM
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RE: Fear of chicken strips...
I think a lot of people on here are confusing the lack of chicken strips with speeding and/or reckless riding on the streets........which is far from the truth. You can easily, full lean your bike at 30 mph and not know you are on the edge of your tires. You can even knee drag your bike under 30 mph as well (which I learned how to do at the superbike school in Laguna Seca).
So what I'm really trying to get at is that not all people who are "chicken strip-less" are "riding too aggressively" for the streets, they just lean the bike over more in the corners, regardless of speed.
In fact, I actually believe that taking your bike to that extreme at a lower speed (like evasive maneuver practice in a vacant parking lot) is beneficial to a rider, because when a rider does get into a situation where he/she goes too hot into a corner, they'll know what it feels like to be on the edge of the tires, and lets the rider know much much or less traction they have left. I'm not saying go out and knee drag your neighborhood at 80mph, but at about 25 mph, you can whip that bike around a vacant parking lot practicing low-speed emergency maneuver's, and the majority of the time you'll be leaning the bike to the edge.
So what I'm really trying to get at is that not all people who are "chicken strip-less" are "riding too aggressively" for the streets, they just lean the bike over more in the corners, regardless of speed.
In fact, I actually believe that taking your bike to that extreme at a lower speed (like evasive maneuver practice in a vacant parking lot) is beneficial to a rider, because when a rider does get into a situation where he/she goes too hot into a corner, they'll know what it feels like to be on the edge of the tires, and lets the rider know much much or less traction they have left. I'm not saying go out and knee drag your neighborhood at 80mph, but at about 25 mph, you can whip that bike around a vacant parking lot practicing low-speed emergency maneuver's, and the majority of the time you'll be leaning the bike to the edge.
#25
04-17-2008 | 07:58 PM
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RE: Fear of chicken strips...
Woo just keep riding and learning, it all takes time, but sounds to me like you are trying to be safe and thats a good thing no matter where your skill level ends up. As far as strips go i dont think they mean anything. Granted i am 6' 2" but i know i can touch down a knee and still leave a 1" strip, or i could tuck in and wipe it away and not even come close to knee down. I dont know why people judge by them, it tells nothing at all about your riding skill.
#26
04-17-2008 | 09:58 PM
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RE: Fear of chicken strips...
After riding at the track I can say that I would not try leaning as far as I did on the track if I was on the street. The track as a crap load more grip. The track is like double sided sticky tape compared to the road which is like freaken slick as a glass surface.
#27
04-17-2008 | 10:52 PM
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04-18-2008 | 07:47 AM
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RE: Fear of chicken strips...
ORIGINAL: Blue Fox
I think a lot of people on here are confusing the lack of chicken strips with speeding and/or reckless riding on the streets........which is far from the truth. You can easily, full lean your bike at 30 mph and not know you are on the edge of your tires. You can even knee drag your bike under 30 mph as well (which I learned how to do at the superbike school in Laguna Seca).
So what I'm really trying to get at is that not all people who are "chicken strip-less" are "riding too aggressively" for the streets, they just lean the bike over more in the corners, regardless of speed.
In fact, I actually believe that taking your bike to that extreme at a lower speed (like evasive maneuver practice in a vacant parking lot) is beneficial to a rider, because when a rider does get into a situation where he/she goes too hot into a corner, they'll know what it feels like to be on the edge of the tires, and lets the rider know much much or less traction they have left. I'm not saying go out and knee drag your neighborhood at 80mph, but at about 25 mph, you can whip that bike around a vacant parking lot practicing low-speed emergency maneuver's, and the majority of the time you'll be leaning the bike to the edge.
I think a lot of people on here are confusing the lack of chicken strips with speeding and/or reckless riding on the streets........which is far from the truth. You can easily, full lean your bike at 30 mph and not know you are on the edge of your tires. You can even knee drag your bike under 30 mph as well (which I learned how to do at the superbike school in Laguna Seca).
So what I'm really trying to get at is that not all people who are "chicken strip-less" are "riding too aggressively" for the streets, they just lean the bike over more in the corners, regardless of speed.
In fact, I actually believe that taking your bike to that extreme at a lower speed (like evasive maneuver practice in a vacant parking lot) is beneficial to a rider, because when a rider does get into a situation where he/she goes too hot into a corner, they'll know what it feels like to be on the edge of the tires, and lets the rider know much much or less traction they have left. I'm not saying go out and knee drag your neighborhood at 80mph, but at about 25 mph, you can whip that bike around a vacant parking lot practicing low-speed emergency maneuver's, and the majority of the time you'll be leaning the bike to the edge.
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04-18-2008 | 11:15 PM
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RE: Fear of chicken strips...
well if you go ride with some experenced riders they can wacth you and give you some pointers, who knows you may be just one change to your form away to getting rid of them. twice i have ridin my friends bikes literally around the block and gotten ride of the chicken strips on there bikes... but that is because i have had some good teachers.