Are you Republican?
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06-19-2008, 07:05 PM
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RE: Are you Republican?
Getting a bit prickly in here...think I'll go have an appletini, relax, and not fret about that which lies beyond my own power to vote.
Besides, after I saw what happened in South Africa this week, immediately I realized that, in comparison, I have zero problems...although, unemployment may prove to be a slight hurdle...[&o]
Besides, after I saw what happened in South Africa this week, immediately I realized that, in comparison, I have zero problems...although, unemployment may prove to be a slight hurdle...[&o]
#32
06-19-2008, 08:47 PM
RE: Are you Republican?
I have, and personally believe that everybody should, spent my time in the employ of Uncle Sam as well.
No, I am not a teacher. I could never make it as a teacher. I have a real problem with revisionist history and such.
What is unfortunate is that the Constitution has the potential to be a great document - as it once was - but if elected officials refuse to be governed by it or govern by it, it fundementally becomes useless.
It's like the saying I read somewhere:
"The Iraqis want a constitution? Let's give them ours. We're not using it any more"
With all of that said, I still believe the Constitution of the United States to be a document worth giving one's life for.
I know it's not as great as suffrage, but thought provoking I hope.
By the way HardCorp, +1 to everything that you said.
No, I am not a teacher. I could never make it as a teacher. I have a real problem with revisionist history and such.
What is unfortunate is that the Constitution has the potential to be a great document - as it once was - but if elected officials refuse to be governed by it or govern by it, it fundementally becomes useless.
It's like the saying I read somewhere:
"The Iraqis want a constitution? Let's give them ours. We're not using it any more"
With all of that said, I still believe the Constitution of the United States to be a document worth giving one's life for.
I know it's not as great as suffrage, but thought provoking I hope.
By the way HardCorp, +1 to everything that you said.
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I am absolutely ecstatic that yoo chose to use the word republic loosely, because if in anyway you think this truly resembles a republic then you re living in a ****INGFantasy World if you believe our current structure government has any problem with adding amendments to modify the good Constitution to fit whatever they needed it to, once again, you're living in a fantasy world. If your vocation is one of teacher. I suggest you consult your constituents to quit using the word democracy. When discussing our current form of government with the youth of this nation, regardless of the original origin. Let's see if your 19th post is asbig a sensation as the 19th amendment was or at least thought-provoking
would be quite happy to debate the Constitution with you here or anywhere else I personally have spent enough damn time defending the damn thing to pick it apart
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And now for my final post, (for now)
Just to clarify: We do not live in a democracy. The US is, and has always been, a Constitutional Republic.
In a Democracy, everyone has a say and their opinion matters. It is feasibly impossible to govern an entire country by a true democracy.
It never ceases to amaze me when people say that we are "spreading democracy" across the world. We don't have any democracy to spread. We went into Iraq and are helping them to set up their own Constitutional Republic. And even then I use the term republic loosely.
The founding fathers wanted a Republic, (a state that is not governed by a monarch or other hereditary head of state), that was governed by a Constitution.
What is sad is that I work with a lot naturalized US citizens, (Indians, Asians, Muslims etc), and they know the Constitution better than any US-born person with which I work.
The Constitution: learn it, love it and live by it.
And now for my final post, (for now)
Just to clarify: We do not live in a democracy. The US is, and has always been, a Constitutional Republic.
In a Democracy, everyone has a say and their opinion matters. It is feasibly impossible to govern an entire country by a true democracy.
It never ceases to amaze me when people say that we are "spreading democracy" across the world. We don't have any democracy to spread. We went into Iraq and are helping them to set up their own Constitutional Republic. And even then I use the term republic loosely.
The founding fathers wanted a Republic, (a state that is not governed by a monarch or other hereditary head of state), that was governed by a Constitution.
What is sad is that I work with a lot naturalized US citizens, (Indians, Asians, Muslims etc), and they know the Constitution better than any US-born person with which I work.
The Constitution: learn it, love it and live by it.
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That's what I mean. The republic in which this democracy was founded has nothing to with Republicans and Democrats...
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What happened to the Republic
What happened to the Republic
That's what I mean. The republic in which this democracy was founded has nothing to with Republicans and Democrats...
I am absolutely ecstatic that yoo chose to use the word republic loosely, because if in anyway you think this truly resembles a republic then you re living in a ****INGFantasy World if you believe our current structure government has any problem with adding amendments to modify the good Constitution to fit whatever they needed it to, once again, you're living in a fantasy world. If your vocation is one of teacher. I suggest you consult your constituents to quit using the word democracy. When discussing our current form of government with the youth of this nation, regardless of the original origin. Let's see if your 19th post is asbig a sensation as the 19th amendment was or at least thought-provoking
would be quite happy to debate the Constitution with you here or anywhere else I personally have spent enough damn time defending the damn thing to pick it apart
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06-19-2008, 09:32 PM
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You know riegnmanit's too damn bad the version that was put forth on July the 2nd was not ratified. Maybe things like the 19th amendment would not have been necessary or the Civil War either maybe. Of course the big argument behind that was individual states rights going to stop their brother before I'm accused of thread jacking
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06-20-2008, 07:00 AM
RE: Are you Republican?
HardCorp,
That's the great thing about the constitution. Unlike today's politicians, the framers realized that they were human and would screw up. That's why we have the ability to amend the document. And it's still not quite as easy to amend as you might think.
It might be a lot easier though if the balance between repubs and demos in congress were to shift slightly one way or the other.
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That's the great thing about the constitution. Unlike today's politicians, the framers realized that they were human and would screw up. That's why we have the ability to amend the document. And it's still not quite as easy to amend as you might think.
It might be a lot easier though if the balance between repubs and demos in congress were to shift slightly one way or the other.
[&:]
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You know riegnmanit's too damn bad the version that was put forth on July the 2nd was not ratified. Maybe things like the 19th amendment would not have been necessary or the Civil War either maybe. Of course the big argument behind that was individual states rights going to stop their brother before I'm accused of thread jacking
You know riegnmanit's too damn bad the version that was put forth on July the 2nd was not ratified. Maybe things like the 19th amendment would not have been necessary or the Civil War either maybe. Of course the big argument behind that was individual states rights going to stop their brother before I'm accused of thread jacking
#39
06-20-2008, 08:27 AM
RE: Are you Republican?
+1 for Republicans
+1 for the Constitution
+1 for American
I’m not crazy about McCain like Bush but he is the better choice. Barack Hussein Obmaha is a Socialist. We all know we need change but what is your plan Barack………….Oh so you don’t have one. I’ll take Huckabee or Ron Paul any day!
+1 for the Constitution
+1 for American
I’m not crazy about McCain like Bush but he is the better choice. Barack Hussein Obmaha is a Socialist. We all know we need change but what is your plan Barack………….Oh so you don’t have one. I’ll take Huckabee or Ron Paul any day!
#40
06-20-2008, 08:38 AM
RE: Are you Republican?
+1 to the Paul or Huckabee. Preferably Ron Paul because of his strict Constitutionalist approach to government. But neither will ever happen. [:@]
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+1 for Republicans
+1 for the Constitution
+1 for American
I’m not crazy about McCain like Bush but he is the better choice. Barack Hussein Obmaha is a Socialist. We all know we need change but what is your plan Barack………….Oh so you don’t have one. I’ll take Huckabee or Ron Paul any day!
+1 for Republicans
+1 for the Constitution
+1 for American
I’m not crazy about McCain like Bush but he is the better choice. Barack Hussein Obmaha is a Socialist. We all know we need change but what is your plan Barack………….Oh so you don’t have one. I’ll take Huckabee or Ron Paul any day!