weaving
#21
Does weaving a motorcycle benefit with the "warming" of tires?
discuss plz
To my way of thinking, DWS, you asked for a discussion, and now don't want to hear others views ?
BTW - I too believe the comments you made regarding Pacemakers reply were out of line.
Let's not turn this into a barbeque folks.
I'm a good fry chef..................
Oh and I weave my bike because it helps to get rid of any dust on the tyre sides, never mind the heat.
discuss plz
To my way of thinking, DWS, you asked for a discussion, and now don't want to hear others views ?
BTW - I too believe the comments you made regarding Pacemakers reply were out of line.
Let's not turn this into a barbeque folks.
I'm a good fry chef..................
Oh and I weave my bike because it helps to get rid of any dust on the tyre sides, never mind the heat.
Last edited by Shadow; 11-02-2009 at 06:37 AM.
#22
#23
never said i didnt want to hear or discuss other views......i just find it amazing at how far someone will go to argue a point without any facts
my post was pretty simple...and i guess i have to go further into explaining
running a tire at 10 psi is not normal operation.......
it strikes me funny at what extreme examples some will throw out there to argue something
i did'nt see that coming.....so thats why the comment
Originally Posted by dwschultzy
lets keep this on topic and talk about when riding under "normal" circumstances...kthx
he followed up my comment with his point of view and it was left at that
pretty simple eh?
so mr shadow....you have obviously looked over all the posts and made a general assessment that i was on the attack and thats why you've decided to make a public statement towards me with my post regarding mr pacemaker.....so lets keep this in the open
Originally Posted by pacemaker
My opinion was, that anything that gave a rider confidence to ride without trepidation was a good thing.
my post clearly was just dealing with the 10psi comment......thats it
but the rebutle was only dealing with his feelers getting hurt over the fact that i didnt acknowledge his "rider confidence" comment
dear mr pacemaker....you make a valid and strong point with that statement......however....thats not what i was arguing....i was arguing the 10psi comment
is that good enough for you...can i come out of the corner now?
what's this about?
open discussion about a topic and your going to threaten to slap me on the pee pee?
i never made any direct derogatory comments....i simply stated at how amazed i am at how far someone will go to prove their point (going back to the 10psi comment) <beats dead horse some more>
whats the point of trying to have a discussion if when you upset someone a little....you get threatened by the mods?
#24
Back in 2004 I had a good friend crash and break several bones, not too mention wadding his bike, at Talledega by weaving to warm up the tires. This on the straights no less Prolly would have been amusing if he hadn't got hurt so bad.
There have been several tests done by (some more scientific than others) and they all conclude that weaving does squat for warming tires. You get the same results by just riding in a straight line at a constant speed.
And I'm not convinced that weaving will get the crud off your tires either. Maybe on an Indy car because those tires have a huge flat surface. But our tires are curved so to effectively get the crap off you'd have to lean over quite a bit which could subject you to losing traction from the very stuff you're trying to shake off. Centrifugal force will do more to remove unwanted pebbles and grit off your tires safely than weaving side to side.
BUT, I will admit to weaving occasionally. Like wheelies it's just one of those aspects of riding a bike that sometimes overcomes your common sense.
There have been several tests done by (some more scientific than others) and they all conclude that weaving does squat for warming tires. You get the same results by just riding in a straight line at a constant speed.
And I'm not convinced that weaving will get the crud off your tires either. Maybe on an Indy car because those tires have a huge flat surface. But our tires are curved so to effectively get the crap off you'd have to lean over quite a bit which could subject you to losing traction from the very stuff you're trying to shake off. Centrifugal force will do more to remove unwanted pebbles and grit off your tires safely than weaving side to side.
BUT, I will admit to weaving occasionally. Like wheelies it's just one of those aspects of riding a bike that sometimes overcomes your common sense.
#25
Pacemaker was not argueing a point, let alone going to extremes to prove something ... he was merely discussing the topic in question, he was not out to prove you wrong or right, it was pretty obvious he was just adding what he had also heard about weaving to the thread, it was interesting ... but then you were very condescending to him ... he hardly went to any great length to prove a point as he was not proving any point, he was merely just adding to the thread ....
Jules
Jules
#26
#27
Back in 2004 I had a good friend crash and break several bones, not too mention wadding his bike, at Talledega by weaving to warm up the tires. This on the straights no less Prolly would have been amusing if he hadn't got hurt so bad.
There have been several tests done by (some more scientific than others) and they all conclude that weaving does squat for warming tires. You get the same results by just riding in a straight line at a constant speed.
And I'm not convinced that weaving will get the crud off your tires either. Maybe on an Indy car because those tires have a huge flat surface. But our tires are curved so to effectively get the crap off you'd have to lean over quite a bit which could subject you to losing traction from the very stuff you're trying to shake off. Centrifugal force will do more to remove unwanted pebbles and grit off your tires safely than weaving side to side.
BUT, I will admit to weaving occasionally. Like wheelies it's just one of those aspects of riding a bike that sometimes overcomes your common sense.
There have been several tests done by (some more scientific than others) and they all conclude that weaving does squat for warming tires. You get the same results by just riding in a straight line at a constant speed.
And I'm not convinced that weaving will get the crud off your tires either. Maybe on an Indy car because those tires have a huge flat surface. But our tires are curved so to effectively get the crap off you'd have to lean over quite a bit which could subject you to losing traction from the very stuff you're trying to shake off. Centrifugal force will do more to remove unwanted pebbles and grit off your tires safely than weaving side to side.
BUT, I will admit to weaving occasionally. Like wheelies it's just one of those aspects of riding a bike that sometimes overcomes your common sense.
good point
#29
I don't believe that weaving on two wheels has the same effect that it does on four wheels with slicks/r-comps.
I don't believe you can generate nearly as much lateral movement on two wheels as you can with a car. Cars on a track for certain benefit from this. It is a pretty solid bet they wouldn't do it if there wasn't a solid measurable gain. If racing isn't doing it it probably doesn't make sense to and vice versa (taking that with a grain of salt because it is racing and it is on a track). I wouldn't think that car racing methods map 1:1 with bikes.
Edit: Doh!
I don't believe you can generate nearly as much lateral movement on two wheels as you can with a car. Cars on a track for certain benefit from this. It is a pretty solid bet they wouldn't do it if there wasn't a solid measurable gain. If racing isn't doing it it probably doesn't make sense to and vice versa (taking that with a grain of salt because it is racing and it is on a track). I wouldn't think that car racing methods map 1:1 with bikes.
Edit: Doh!
Last edited by CrashTECH; 11-02-2009 at 01:18 PM.