weaving
#11
Was told straight lines and braking warms them better. Something about surface area and friction I don't remember. But I do it cause someone who knows more told me to (MSF instructor in expert group at the track).
I do it out of boredom and when approaching lights to get the attention of the cars fore / aft (human eye tracks motion more than anything else).
I do it out of boredom and when approaching lights to get the attention of the cars fore / aft (human eye tracks motion more than anything else).
#15
interesting read for some.....should be good insight for others
http://www.rcramer.com/shop/rrw_weaving.shtml
tests show that your doing nothing different for the tires when weaving than riding in a straight line......its also impressive how tire temps from a tire just left out in the sun are close to a tires temps that have been weaved on
http://www.rcramer.com/shop/rrw_weaving.shtml
tests show that your doing nothing different for the tires when weaving than riding in a straight line......its also impressive how tire temps from a tire just left out in the sun are close to a tires temps that have been weaved on
#16
I had a talk to a guy from a rider training school giving a rider demonstration at the Sydney bike show (some years ago) about the very same thing. These guys where doing it prior to pulling some impressive type stunts. Anyway, his response was that they ran the tyres on these bikes about 10 psi below normal & weaving would get them up to an acceptable temp for what they where doing. He ran his tyres a couple of psi on his road bike for commuting in town, but did not worry about weaving, as he would have to do it after every stop start (amount of time spent at lights would cool the tyres).
I have friends that do it & others don't, I have never worried about it myself. My thoughts though, if weaving makes you confident while riding, then do it, one less thing to 2nd guess about.
I have friends that do it & others don't, I have never worried about it myself. My thoughts though, if weaving makes you confident while riding, then do it, one less thing to 2nd guess about.
#17
I had a talk to a guy from a rider training school giving a rider demonstration at the Sydney bike show (some years ago) about the very same thing. These guys where doing it prior to pulling some impressive type stunts. Anyway, his response was that they ran the tyres on these bikes about 10 psi below normal & weaving would get them up to an acceptable temp for what they where doing. He ran his tyres a couple of psi on his road bike for commuting in town, but did not worry about weaving, as he would have to do it after every stop start (amount of time spent at lights would cool the tyres).
I have friends that do it & others don't, I have never worried about it myself. My thoughts though, if weaving makes you confident while riding, then do it, one less thing to 2nd guess about.
I have friends that do it & others don't, I have never worried about it myself. My thoughts though, if weaving makes you confident while riding, then do it, one less thing to 2nd guess about.
i am always amazed at just how far people will go to argue a point.....even with facts right in their face saying otherwise
yes....if you have the pressures down way below normal operating range....weaving will be enough to flex the carcass and generate heat
it will also destroy the tires
lets keep this on topic and talk about when riding under "normal" circumstances...kthx
this thread is meant to be informative
weaving on cold tires to make an attempt to generate heat in them is dangerous........you're not generating any more heat in the tires as someone riding down the road in a straight line or better yet....in some situations...a tire that is just sitting in the sun
if you or others you know are doing it on cold tires....it would be a "friendly" jester to inform them or show them these articles showing them how dangerous weaving can be on cold tires
just as dangerous as running out onto the track with cold tires and going knee deep into the first corner just yards away from track entrance....imho
Last edited by dwschultzy; 11-01-2009 at 08:20 AM.
#18
wow
i am always amazed at just how far people will go to argue a point.....even with facts right in their face saying otherwise
yes....if you have the pressures down way below normal operating range....weaving will be enough to flex the carcass and generate heat
it will also destroy the tires
lets keep this on topic and talk about when riding under "normal" circumstances...kthx
this thread is meant to be informative
weaving on cold tires to make an attempt to generate heat in them is dangerous........you're not generating any more heat in the tires as someone riding down the road in a straight line or better yet....in some situations...a tire that is just sitting in the sun
if you or others you know are doing it on cold tires....it would be a "friendly" jester to inform them or show them these articles showing them how dangerous weaving can be on cold tires
just as dangerous as running out onto the track with cold tires and going knee deep into the first corner just yards away from track entrance....imho
i am always amazed at just how far people will go to argue a point.....even with facts right in their face saying otherwise
yes....if you have the pressures down way below normal operating range....weaving will be enough to flex the carcass and generate heat
it will also destroy the tires
lets keep this on topic and talk about when riding under "normal" circumstances...kthx
this thread is meant to be informative
weaving on cold tires to make an attempt to generate heat in them is dangerous........you're not generating any more heat in the tires as someone riding down the road in a straight line or better yet....in some situations...a tire that is just sitting in the sun
if you or others you know are doing it on cold tires....it would be a "friendly" jester to inform them or show them these articles showing them how dangerous weaving can be on cold tires
just as dangerous as running out onto the track with cold tires and going knee deep into the first corner just yards away from track entrance....imho
Not saying your views are wrong or whatever, but I resent being slammed for expressing mine.
I not going to argue over what you have read in a Bike mag, My opinion was, that anything that gave a rider confidence to ride without trepidation was a good thing.
If you had this information, maybe posting it as is, would be a better way cautioning others.
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wow
i am always amazed at just how far people will go to argue a point.....even with facts right in their face saying otherwise
yes....if you have the pressures down way below normal operating range....weaving will be enough to flex the carcass and generate heat
it will also destroy the tires
lets keep this on topic and talk about when riding under "normal" circumstances...kthx
i am always amazed at just how far people will go to argue a point.....even with facts right in their face saying otherwise
yes....if you have the pressures down way below normal operating range....weaving will be enough to flex the carcass and generate heat
it will also destroy the tires
lets keep this on topic and talk about when riding under "normal" circumstances...kthx
Wow. Didn't read anything argumentative or aggressive into pace's post myself, let alone trying to argue a dead point. Feeling a lil little touchy maybe? And yeah, if you say "Discuss" then bash on someone who posts an opinion different than yours or some article you managed to drag up on the interwebs (obviously totally conclusive, I mean, it's the freakin rcramer website, you know) then your kinda defeating the point of the discussion aren't you? Wth is wrong with people nowadays.
Last edited by Hangfire; 11-02-2009 at 12:45 AM.
#20
You created a poll and asked for a discussion and views of whether weaving makes a difference to warming up tyres ... people have responded very nicely to this thread and Pace gave his view, which was interesting actually, and not counter to the point of this thread ... your unneccessary put down of him and your attitude has been noted ... I will have no hesitation locking this thread if you persist in treating people like this.
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