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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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this is amazing. groundbreaking if it turns out true after they have tested it a million times.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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More sources:

Particles found to break speed of light - Yahoo! News

BBC News - Speed-of-light experiments give baffling result at Cern
 

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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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Interesting.

Doesn't and prolly won't ever apply to any of us in our lifetime. But if true it's going to set theoretical physics back at least a half a century while all the scientists grab erasers and go back to Square One.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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if true it's going to set theoretical physics back at least a half a century while all the scientists grab erasers and go back to Square One.
you should really read the book "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". it talks a lot about how the existence of the scientific method creates no concrete truths and how all scientific truths someday will become fallible. anytime you test and prove one hypothesis, many more are created for the same scientific problem. its a bit spacey, but the guy that wrote it brings up some pretty good points about the way we think - and this (the "almost" dis-proving of E=MC^2) goes hand in hand with what that book is about.


any of the nerds out there should pick it up.

good find jpan
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Conrice
you should really read the book "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". it talks a lot about how the existence of the scientific method creates no concrete truths and how all scientific truths someday will become fallible. anytime you test and prove one hypothesis, many more are created for the same scientific problem. its a bit spacey, but the guy that wrote it brings up some pretty good points about the way we think - and this (the "almost" dis-proving of E=MC^2) goes hand in hand with what that book is about.


any of the nerds out there should pick it up.

good find jpan
lol I've got a rather crass way of saying something similar:

The only certainties in life are Death and Taxes... I've got a lawyer working on the second one and a preacher working on the first

There's always the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle to toss in the mix as well.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is a good book. It's sitting on my nightstand right now because I decided to read it again (it's been like 10yrs)

That was a cool article, tho, Jpan.
But... I've ridden faster on my bike, yo.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kilgoretrout
But... I've ridden faster on my bike, yo.
rofl
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuroshio

The only certainties in life are Death and Taxes... I've got a lawyer working on the second one and a preacher working on the first
very nice
 
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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Supposedly these subatomic particles were measured at 60 billionths of a second faster than the speed of light. I see some room for error and thus I'm a bit skeptical until further independent results are conducted.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadiJeff
Supposedly these subatomic particles were measured at 60 billionths of a second faster than the speed of light. I see some room for error and thus I'm a bit skeptical until further independent results are conducted.
I work at a lab and we do particle experiments accelerating electrons to near the speed of light and the equipment used is unbelievably accurate. 60 billionths isn't too hard to fathom as a viable measurement for this type of stuff.
 
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