PC ram choosing. Help me
#11
10-08-2007, 03:58 AM
RE: PC ram choosing. Help me
By checking it out, I am assuming your looking at:
SPECS AT A GLANCE
Motherboard
nForce 680i SLI Mainboard
Part Number
122-CK-NF68-AR
CPU Support
Intel Socket 775
Chipset
NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI Chipset
Memory Support
DDR2 533/667/800/1200MHz SLI-Ready memory
FSB Speed
Supports 1066/1333 Mhz
SATA Header
6
SATA Type
300MB/sec
USB Ports
10
PCIE Slot
2 x PCIe x16, 1 x PCIe Graphics expansion slot, 2 x PCIe x1, 2 x PCI
Integrated LAN
2 x 10/100/1000
AdditionalFeatures
[ul][*]7.1 Channel HD Audio [/ul]
If so, you can use DDR2 533,667,800,1066 or 1200 memory. To use these in dual channel mode, you'll need 2 sticks of equal size(1Gb x2 Sticks)=2 Gigs of memory. You place these in the same channel Blue/Blue or Black/Black depending on what your manual says.
Your FSB is for your processor whichyou got a 1066fsb Quad Core. You could have got a 1333 Dual Core or Quad if your wallet could go that deep
.
Anyways, it comes down to what you can afford and what timing you want on your ram. I build my friends rig and I went with 2Gigs of G. Skill DDR2 800 with 5-5-5-15. The price was good at the time and I was trying to save money since it was a present. They make higher speed ram, but your going to pay for it big time. Also, it depends on what software your running. Windows XP/Vista 32 bit only supports up to about 2800mb of ram so 2 gigs is about all you really need to get the job done unless your into high end graphics development.
Hope this helps.
SPECS AT A GLANCE
Motherboard
nForce 680i SLI Mainboard
Part Number
122-CK-NF68-AR
CPU Support
Intel Socket 775
Chipset
NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI Chipset
Memory Support
DDR2 533/667/800/1200MHz SLI-Ready memory
FSB Speed
Supports 1066/1333 Mhz
SATA Header
6
SATA Type
300MB/sec
USB Ports
10
PCIE Slot
2 x PCIe x16, 1 x PCIe Graphics expansion slot, 2 x PCIe x1, 2 x PCI
Integrated LAN
2 x 10/100/1000
AdditionalFeatures
[ul][*]7.1 Channel HD Audio [/ul]
If so, you can use DDR2 533,667,800,1066 or 1200 memory. To use these in dual channel mode, you'll need 2 sticks of equal size(1Gb x2 Sticks)=2 Gigs of memory. You place these in the same channel Blue/Blue or Black/Black depending on what your manual says.
Your FSB is for your processor whichyou got a 1066fsb Quad Core. You could have got a 1333 Dual Core or Quad if your wallet could go that deep
. Anyways, it comes down to what you can afford and what timing you want on your ram. I build my friends rig and I went with 2Gigs of G. Skill DDR2 800 with 5-5-5-15. The price was good at the time and I was trying to save money since it was a present. They make higher speed ram, but your going to pay for it big time. Also, it depends on what software your running. Windows XP/Vista 32 bit only supports up to about 2800mb of ram so 2 gigs is about all you really need to get the job done unless your into high end graphics development.
Hope this helps.
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10-08-2007, 04:11 AM
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10-08-2007, 06:40 AM
RE: PC ram choosing. Help me
To, be honest, I don't pay much attention to the speed. I doubt I would really notice the difference unless I was measuring it. I usually just goto Crucial.com and use there site to determine the memory needed for my motherboard. Depending on your OS and what you use your computer for, you should get a minimum of 2 GB.
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RE: PC ram choosing. Help me
ORIGINAL: Balamien
By checking it out, I am assuming your looking at:
SPECS AT A GLANCE
Motherboard
nForce 680i SLI Mainboard
Part Number
122-CK-NF68-AR
CPU Support
Intel Socket 775
Chipset
NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI Chipset
Memory Support
DDR2 533/667/800/1200MHz SLI-Ready memory
FSB Speed
Supports 1066/1333 Mhz
SATA Header
6
SATA Type
300MB/sec
USB Ports
10
PCIE Slot
2 x PCIe x16, 1 x PCIe Graphics expansion slot, 2 x PCIe x1, 2 x PCI
Integrated LAN
2 x 10/100/1000
AdditionalFeatures [ul][*]7.1 Channel HD Audio [/ul]
If so, you can use DDR2 533,667,800,1066 or 1200 memory. To use these in dual channel mode, you'll need 2 sticks of equal size(1Gb x2 Sticks)=2 Gigs of memory. You place these in the same channel Blue/Blue or Black/Black depending on what your manual says.
Your FSB is for your processor whichyou got a 1066fsb Quad Core. You could have got a 1333 Dual Core or Quad if your wallet could go that deep.
Anyways, it comes down to what you can afford and what timing you want on your ram. I build my friends rig and I went with 2Gigs of G. Skill DDR2 800 with 5-5-5-15. The price was good at the time and I was trying to save money since it was a present. They make higher speed ram, but your going to pay for it big time. Also, it depends on what software your running. Windows XP/Vista 32 bit only supports up to about 2800mb of ram so 2 gigs is about all you really need to get the job done unless your into high end graphics development.
Hope this helps.
By checking it out, I am assuming your looking at:
SPECS AT A GLANCE
Motherboard
nForce 680i SLI Mainboard
Part Number
122-CK-NF68-AR
CPU Support
Intel Socket 775
Chipset
NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI Chipset
Memory Support
DDR2 533/667/800/1200MHz SLI-Ready memory
FSB Speed
Supports 1066/1333 Mhz
SATA Header
6
SATA Type
300MB/sec
USB Ports
10
PCIE Slot
2 x PCIe x16, 1 x PCIe Graphics expansion slot, 2 x PCIe x1, 2 x PCI
Integrated LAN
2 x 10/100/1000
AdditionalFeatures [ul][*]7.1 Channel HD Audio [/ul]
If so, you can use DDR2 533,667,800,1066 or 1200 memory. To use these in dual channel mode, you'll need 2 sticks of equal size(1Gb x2 Sticks)=2 Gigs of memory. You place these in the same channel Blue/Blue or Black/Black depending on what your manual says.
Your FSB is for your processor whichyou got a 1066fsb Quad Core. You could have got a 1333 Dual Core or Quad if your wallet could go that deep
. Anyways, it comes down to what you can afford and what timing you want on your ram. I build my friends rig and I went with 2Gigs of G. Skill DDR2 800 with 5-5-5-15. The price was good at the time and I was trying to save money since it was a present. They make higher speed ram, but your going to pay for it big time. Also, it depends on what software your running. Windows XP/Vista 32 bit only supports up to about 2800mb of ram so 2 gigs is about all you really need to get the job done unless your into high end graphics development.
Hope this helps.
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ORIGINAL: woo545
To, be honest, I don't pay much attention to the speed. I doubt I would really notice the difference unless I was measuring it. I usually just goto Crucial.com and use there site to determine the memory needed for my motherboard. Depending on your OS and what you use your computer for, you should get a minimum of 2 GB.
To, be honest, I don't pay much attention to the speed. I doubt I would really notice the difference unless I was measuring it. I usually just goto Crucial.com and use there site to determine the memory needed for my motherboard. Depending on your OS and what you use your computer for, you should get a minimum of 2 GB.
Thats for people that have no clue and they always quote you the cheapest stuff.
#17
10-08-2007, 04:06 PM
RE: PC ram choosing. Help me
Its pretty much the same board, even if you look at the pics. Just get 2 sticks of 1 gigabyte ram and plug them into the Black/Black color slots or Blue/Blue and your good to go.
Just some thoughts on what you might consider for cheaper non"supported" ram that will work.
DDR2-1066 Speed Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148070&Tpk=N82E1682 0148070
^^800 version of this ram is supported, but supposedly not the1066(I imagine they just never tested)
DDR2-800 Speed Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098&Tpk=N82E1682 0231098
If you want the EVGA "supported" DDR2-800ram.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565&Tpk=N82E1682 0146565
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220144&Tpk=N82E1682 0220144
And Supported DDR2-1066 Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...N2X2048-8500C5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...k=OCZ2N10662GK
When I got my friend the G.Skill, it wasn't on the supported list and when he started up the new rig it did not detect the timings(how fast the ram runs) correctly. He had to go into the Bios and manually set it, but thats rather easy. Overall, the timing will make maybe a half second differance in how you run your games and probably even less on day to day stuff. I use to be a big pro-corsair fan, but their products and severely failing RMA/Tech support has left me looking for something else. If you want the top of the line hit the 1066 stuff, if you can live with more money in your wallet hit the 800 speed.Hope some of any of this helps you.
Just some thoughts on what you might consider for cheaper non"supported" ram that will work.
DDR2-1066 Speed Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148070&Tpk=N82E1682 0148070
^^800 version of this ram is supported, but supposedly not the1066(I imagine they just never tested)
DDR2-800 Speed Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098&Tpk=N82E1682 0231098
If you want the EVGA "supported" DDR2-800ram.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565&Tpk=N82E1682 0146565
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220144&Tpk=N82E1682 0220144
And Supported DDR2-1066 Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...N2X2048-8500C5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...k=OCZ2N10662GK
When I got my friend the G.Skill, it wasn't on the supported list and when he started up the new rig it did not detect the timings(how fast the ram runs) correctly. He had to go into the Bios and manually set it, but thats rather easy. Overall, the timing will make maybe a half second differance in how you run your games and probably even less on day to day stuff. I use to be a big pro-corsair fan, but their products and severely failing RMA/Tech support has left me looking for something else. If you want the top of the line hit the 1066 stuff, if you can live with more money in your wallet hit the 800 speed.Hope some of any of this helps you.
#18
10-08-2007, 05:08 PM
RE: PC ram choosing. Help me
ORIGINAL: rangerscott
Thats for people that have no clue and they always quote you the cheapest stuff.
ORIGINAL: woo545
To, be honest, I don't pay much attention to the speed. I doubt I would really notice the difference unless I was measuring it. I usually just goto Crucial.com and use there site to determine the memory needed for my motherboard. Depending on your OS and what you use your computer for, you should get a minimum of 2 GB.
To, be honest, I don't pay much attention to the speed. I doubt I would really notice the difference unless I was measuring it. I usually just goto Crucial.com and use there site to determine the memory needed for my motherboard. Depending on your OS and what you use your computer for, you should get a minimum of 2 GB.
Thats for people that have no clue and they always quote you the cheapest stuff.
It's also why I'm not doing any major upgrades on my F2. It's not worth getting it to go "faster" or sound louder when, what I have is sufficient. It's really just me. Those thousands of dollars can be better spent on vacation or home improvements or new 40" HDTV. Besides the upgrades that you get are generally not cost effective with the performance bumps. You pay $1500 to get a speedy computer, but hey, you can spend an additional $250 to get and extre 1-2% increase on your computer.
In all honesty, I know you were joking, but it's just a financial thing for me. That extra money is not going to reap huge rewards for me. It's better spent elsewhere or even saved.
#19
10-08-2007, 09:34 PM
RE: PC ram choosing. Help me
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It is also for lazy people who don't plan on overclocking their PC. I meanseriously ... with the state of the current gaming situation for the PC versus the overall speed of the processors, memory, video cards....do you really think you are going to notice and increase of maybe 1 or 2 framerates....when you are already runningwell over 100 fps, sometimes in the 300fps range (low rezF.E.A.R.), is the extra 10 or even 20 fps that you arereally going to get, going to mean squat?I have a PC that more than meets my current and near future needs.
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Sate of the current gaming situation? Current games are too hardcore for most computers to run at the highest settings. Why the hell would I want to run FEAR in low rez? I might as well play Nintendo 64. 10 extra fps is something to be sought after. If it means playing a game at 30 FPS instead of 20 then hell ya. 30FPS is noticeably different from 20. Hell even 30 to 40. I can even tell the difference between 60 and 100.
800FSB is standard in gaming and 1066 will soon be the new standard.
It is also for lazy people who don't plan on overclocking their PC. I meanseriously ... with the state of the current gaming situation for the PC versus the overall speed of the processors, memory, video cards....do you really think you are going to notice and increase of maybe 1 or 2 framerates....when you are already runningwell over 100 fps, sometimes in the 300fps range (low rezF.E.A.R.), is the extra 10 or even 20 fps that you arereally going to get, going to mean squat?I have a PC that more than meets my current and near future needs.
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Sate of the current gaming situation? Current games are too hardcore for most computers to run at the highest settings. Why the hell would I want to run FEAR in low rez? I might as well play Nintendo 64. 10 extra fps is something to be sought after. If it means playing a game at 30 FPS instead of 20 then hell ya. 30FPS is noticeably different from 20. Hell even 30 to 40. I can even tell the difference between 60 and 100.
800FSB is standard in gaming and 1066 will soon be the new standard.
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I'd like to buy the right parts the first time.
Games dont play at a constant frame rate. It get tons of crap going on at once and then you get to watch the game slllloooooowwwwww down. Thats what you try not to see, unless its a glitch.
Supreme Commander is a great example. My current rig, which I wouldnt call slow, but somewhat out dated, runs it around 45 fps. Well, add 1000 units, plus the other teams units and explosins, unit movement, terrain, sky, water, etc etc. It bogs down.
I dont overclock untill my comp shows its age. I just would rather buy all the parts right the first time, then keep upgrading.
Also I find it funny that overclockers get made fun of for pushing their pc to the limit, but when a person spends $200 on an air filter kit for their car to get 2 extra HP, its cool.
Games dont play at a constant frame rate. It get tons of crap going on at once and then you get to watch the game slllloooooowwwwww down. Thats what you try not to see, unless its a glitch.
Supreme Commander is a great example. My current rig, which I wouldnt call slow, but somewhat out dated, runs it around 45 fps. Well, add 1000 units, plus the other teams units and explosins, unit movement, terrain, sky, water, etc etc. It bogs down.
I dont overclock untill my comp shows its age. I just would rather buy all the parts right the first time, then keep upgrading.
Also I find it funny that overclockers get made fun of for pushing their pc to the limit, but when a person spends $200 on an air filter kit for their car to get 2 extra HP, its cool.