Looking for input on next bike
#31
10-17-2009, 01:09 PM
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Keep in mind also, theres a huge difference between a 08 1000RR (which is the bike the op mentioned) and a 90's era 1000f. We're talking much less weight and much more horsepower/torque. Learning on a faster bike takes longer as well. The slower the bike the more you can push it and your able to focus more on your own riding ability and not as much on trying not to push the bike past not only its limits but also yours. The difference between cornering and highsiding on modern 1krr's can literally by a quarter of an inch of throttle turn at any decent lean. How many people with 1800 miles under their belt have perfectly reliable throttle control?
It's entirely possible he could hop on a 1k and end up just fine, may never crash on it. But it's all about the odds, and the odds for a new rider on a 1k are just not in most peoples favor.
It's entirely possible he could hop on a 1k and end up just fine, may never crash on it. But it's all about the odds, and the odds for a new rider on a 1k are just not in most peoples favor.
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10-17-2009, 01:53 PM
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10-17-2009, 04:14 PM
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I did the research and to do the carb clean that I may need is like $300 and is it worth it on a bike that I bought personally as just to learn and not worth in my mind putting any money into? I figured if I got say a 01-06 F4i I think that it could have enough grunt to move my big butt and still be worth it to put money into to make it look nicer and if there is anything performance I can do, then do so. Agree or disagree?
#34
10-17-2009, 05:13 PM
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Sean, it all depends. If you want to learn about your bikes and how they work, etc., then I would just do the carb clean yourself and spend next to no money on it. Bike maintenance can get REALLY expensive if you don't do some stuff yourself. Many of us aren't rich, so we choose to try and do our own maintenance. Some just take it to the shop.
If it were me, I'd pull the carbs and clean them up myself to see if it makes a difference. It's totally up to you, though.
If you really want an F4i, there's really nothing wrong with that, either.
I look at it like I'd rather drop or scratch a cheaper F2 than a more expensive F4i. Still just my personal opinion, though.
If it were me, I'd pull the carbs and clean them up myself to see if it makes a difference. It's totally up to you, though.
If you really want an F4i, there's really nothing wrong with that, either.
I look at it like I'd rather drop or scratch a cheaper F2 than a more expensive F4i. Still just my personal opinion, though.
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10-17-2009, 05:40 PM
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I hear what your saying kilgoretrout, and your entirely right. But I kinda suspect Sean's got the bug, you know, had enough hassle with what he currently owns and just wants something else. We've all been there.
Sean, I'd say a f4i is a great choice of bike, plenty quick enough to move you around, handles great and you'll cry a little bit less if you lay it down than you would if you were on a new 600rr, Also, since they are fuel injected it'll be less maintenance for you. The bikes are pretty much bulletproof. If you can though find one that's already had the Cam Chain Tensioner replaced, it's the one common thing on f4i's that regularly gets replaced, and with 15k or so thats about the mileage they tend to start getting loud enough to annoy. Easy, cheap fix though if it hasn't already been done, cheaper than having your f2's carbs cleaned at least.
Sean, I'd say a f4i is a great choice of bike, plenty quick enough to move you around, handles great and you'll cry a little bit less if you lay it down than you would if you were on a new 600rr, Also, since they are fuel injected it'll be less maintenance for you. The bikes are pretty much bulletproof. If you can though find one that's already had the Cam Chain Tensioner replaced, it's the one common thing on f4i's that regularly gets replaced, and with 15k or so thats about the mileage they tend to start getting loud enough to annoy. Easy, cheap fix though if it hasn't already been done, cheaper than having your f2's carbs cleaned at least.
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10-18-2009, 10:21 AM
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But I kinda suspect Sean's got the bug, you know, had enough hassle with what he currently owns and just wants something else. We've all been there.
I guess the thing im wondering is is the F4i a bike that is powerful enough to not bore you, have enough in the aftermarket scene to "customize" at all, and about the same proportions as the F2?
#39
10-18-2009, 11:54 AM
To be honest, I feel there isn't a bike that'll bore me until I master it. Even the little 250s I used during the BRC were fun. There are many milestones I feel I have to achieve before I start looking at a bigger bike. Including the Holy Grail of Sports Bikes: Knee Dragging at will.
Power basically adds to the straight line experience, I feel. I'm a Street Rider. Power really doesn't add much to my riding experience. Making my bike look and sound good, being able to flick it over to take 90 degree turns and basically getting from Point A to Point B with style are my goals. That said...
If I knew now what I knew when I was shopping for a bike, I prolly woulda gotten an F4I just to avoid the carb issues
If you see one you like, grab it. Maybe part out your F2 to build up the cash. Again, the time is to your advantage. Off season, people are doing projects on their bikes. While bike prices may drop, part prices will prolly go up some. I still say stay away from the liter bikes. There are ways you can easily beat your friends with a 600 if you've got the control. And they'll be green trying to figure out how you can do it
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10-18-2009, 11:59 AM
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Ok, I know this will sound all "counter cultural" and all (Sportbike culture that is) but I'm not sure a big guy will be all that impressed with a really light bike. There is something about a bigger, heavier bike that just seems more substantial and this might be especially true for a big guy. That's part of why I like my CBR 1000F so much. It has gravitas. I bike that he can pick up in his arms might feel like a bicycle to him. Kind of insubstantial. I sold my 750 because it felt wimpy. All of our priorities are not the same. And power to weight ratio might not be as important as torque and mass. Just something to consider.