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The world is in no shortage of weirdos and sick folks. My first and foremost thoughts are with those affected, their families and loved ones. I'm sure we'll get a bigger picture in the days to come. I'm curious where he got the gear for the attack, as an avid sportsman and shooter, I wonder also how this will be spun in the media for more gun-laws. Schools are a gun free zone right??? It makes us safe right?? Can't help but immagine how simply one person carrying during all of this could have changed things drastically. Amazing. Almost wish turds like this would survive so we could maybe understand the mind behind the madness, even though he surely deserves no life, I'm sure we'd all like to know "Why".
 
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The world is in no shortage of weirdos and sick folks. My first and foremost thoughts are with those affected, their families and loved ones. I'm sure we'll get a bigger picture in the days to come. I'm curious where he got the gear for the attack, as an avid sportsman and shooter, I wonder also how this will be spun in the media for more gun-laws. Schools are a gun free zone right??? It makes us safe right?? Can't help but immagine how simply one person carrying during all of this could have changed things drastically. Amazing. Almost wish turds like this would survive so we could maybe understand the mind behind the madness, even though he surely deserves no life, I'm sure we'd all like to know "Why".
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A mess is an under statement. I went there, and founded the Car Club of Va Tech which has over a hundred members. One member knew the RA that was shot, another had a frat brother who was one of the guys that help barricade the door from the inside to keep him from getting in.

I was sick all morning until I had heard from all my friends. I had classes in the room when I was there, so I'm obviously freaked out.

So far everyone in my club and others friends/family has "checked in", but this is just ****ing sick.
 
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COLUMN: Law school, guns, and a media bias


01/24/2002

(U-WIRE) IOWA CITY, Iowa -- Last week, a disgruntled student at Appalachian School of Law in Grundy, Va., went on a shooting spree. Peter Odighizuwa tragically shot six people, killing Dean Anthony Sutin, Associate Professor Thomas Blackwell, and student Angela Dales.

Most news reports pointed out that the situation ended when several students "confronted," "tackled," or "intervened." However, Tracy Bridges, Ted Besen, Todd Ross, and Mikael Gross did not merely "confront" Odighizuwa. Bridges and Gross separately ran to their cars to get their handguns once the shooting began. Bridges approached Odighizuwa with Besen's and Ross' aid. Gross was close behind. According to Bridges, "I aimed my gun at him, and Peter tossed his gun down." Bridges, Besen, and Gross had previously received police or military training.

Unfortunately, the media did not point out that the "intervening" students were armed. A Lexis-Nexis search revealed 88 stories on the topic, of which only two mentioned that either Bridges or Gross were armed. A Westnews search exposed worse results. It revealed 112 stories, of which only two mentioned the armed students.

With media bias like this, it is no wonder that people fail to see the benefits of gun ownership. This was a very public shooting with a lot of media coverage. Even here, reporters rarely presented the positive side of firearms. Instead, they preferred to default to the politically correct story portraying guns as something only the bad guy uses.

Of course, this media bias is not unprecedented. A more thorough Lexis-Nexis search by a Yale researcher revealed 687 articles on the school shooting in Pearl, Miss. Of those, only 19 mentioned that Assistant Principal Joel Myrick retrieved a gun from his car and stopped the shooters four-and-a-half minutes before police arrived.

Few will remember that an armed guard helped many students at Columbine escape and was thwarted only when shooters began using explosives. Fewer still will remember that a restaurant owner who was hosting a school dance for students in Edinboro, Pa., stopped a student shooter 11 minutes before police could arrive.

Our myopic view of guns leads too many of us to believe that if we disarm people, we will be safer. Unfortunately, mandatory disarmament only disarms those who are interested in obeying the law. Laws against gun ownership and possession are ineffective against those who would do us harm.

No one would believe that people in Iowa City don't smoke marijuana or that underage college students don't find ways to procure alcohol. Why should we be any more naïve when it comes to rules against firearms?

I was unable to discover Appalachian School of Law's weapons policy, but if it is like almost every other law school in the country, it probably prohibits students from possessing guns on campus. That is probably why Bridges and Gross did not have their guns on their persons. Imagine what these men might have prevented if they could have responded immediately, guns in hand.

Unfortunately, at the University of Iowa, we are more defenseless. The university prohibits the possession of firearms. At our law school, as on most of the campus, people would be unable to run to their cars to fetch their guns, as the only available nearby parking is on university property.

Even worse, our Public Safety officers would be unable to protect us. Only last week did the state of Iowa Board of Regents decide to arm Public Safety officers with air Tasers. Most Tasers are ineffective at more than 21 feet, and they can be defeated with a heavy coat. The UI officers are trained to use firearms, like ordinary police officers, and they have the authority to do almost everything an Iowa City police officer does.
 
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