Hamburger Hill
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Hamburger Hill
just watched this. never seen it before (until now, obviously)but heard alot about it, and heard people ranking it up there w/ 'full metal jacket'. the movie wasnt ABSOLUTELY amazing, as its kinda old now.....but a good war movie none the less. i enjoy a good war movie. i think what made it more interesting was knowing someone who was in that war. a friend of mine's father was in the Vietnam war. he's 100% blind now, cant tell day from night, cant see a flashlight infront of his face (caused by the Agent Orange they sprayed over the jungle). always heard stories from him, crazy stuff for SURE!
anyone else seen this?
anyone else seen this?
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Yer ..I have seen it a few times JD ..
A wicked portrail of the waste and needless suffering for a lousy chunk of hill ..
My brother in law , a great mate and now dead ..(only 14 mths ago at 59 ) did 2 and a half full tours over in Nam.....yu don't recon he was a twisted soul after that **** mate ...he used to sit around with us guys at familly get togethers and rattle out some evil nasty stuff about his years over their..
He put me right off ever joining the military
no good at all ...
I missed the draft here by just 12 mths when the war ceased ... thank god !!
A wicked portrail of the waste and needless suffering for a lousy chunk of hill ..
My brother in law , a great mate and now dead ..(only 14 mths ago at 59 ) did 2 and a half full tours over in Nam.....yu don't recon he was a twisted soul after that **** mate ...he used to sit around with us guys at familly get togethers and rattle out some evil nasty stuff about his years over their..
He put me right off ever joining the military
no good at all ...
I missed the draft here by just 12 mths
when the war ceased ... thank god !!
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i couldnt believe when the choppers went over just littering the ground w/ bullets, killing MANY Americans........knowing that it is something that actually happened/happens. i couldnt imagine being in anything like that.
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Yup...allot of scenes were bloody (and literally) amazing ..
If we did not know better , you would think that particular movie was actually designed to put us off , from going to war ..I recon JD
not my cup of tea at all either mate ...
BTW..any bloody country comes to my shore and starts **** ...I would get off my **** and fight the bastards till they got me or I got them ...no probs mate ..
but going to other countries to get your **** blown away by your own peeps and the enemy ...
breaks my head to even think about and gives me the chills ...
If we did not know better , you would think that particular movie was actually designed to put us off , from going to war ..I recon JD
not my cup of tea at all either mate ...
BTW..any bloody country comes to my shore and starts **** ...I would get off my **** and fight the bastards till they got me or I got them ...no probs mate ..
but going to other countries to get your **** blown away by your own peeps and the enemy ...
breaks my head to even think about and gives me the chills ...
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Hamburger Hill is classic. Its probably one of the best portrayal of the Vietnam conflict.
Yea war sucks *****. I was one of those adrenaline junkies who joined the military right after 911 thinking that I was gonna get me some. Well I did three combat tours in Iraq and I've lost a lot of friends, some that are younger than I am and left kids behind. Im lucky to be alive and still in one piece. Its not the same as Vietnam was and I cant even imagine the things those guys went through. What sucks the most is the we neglect a lot of these veterans by not giving them care
Yea war sucks *****. I was one of those adrenaline junkies who joined the military right after 911 thinking that I was gonna get me some. Well I did three combat tours in Iraq and I've lost a lot of friends, some that are younger than I am and left kids behind. Im lucky to be alive and still in one piece. Its not the same as Vietnam was and I cant even imagine the things those guys went through. What sucks the most is the we neglect a lot of these veterans by not giving them care
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my friends father gets taken care of pretty well from the VA Clinic. he used to be able to see alteast day from night, but not anymore. i know people in those situations dont want you to feel sorry for them, but its hard not to. i couldnt imagine waking up each day and not be able to tell whether its day or night. not to mention the things he HAD seen, that are engraved in his mind. couldnt even imagine........
he's happy as could be though. he always had friends stopping by checking on him, drives some of the cars/trucks in the driveway around to move them/wash them haha. he knows his house/yard like the back of his hand....amazing to see.
he's happy as could be though. he always had friends stopping by checking on him, drives some of the cars/trucks in the driveway around to move them/wash them haha. he knows his house/yard like the back of his hand....amazing to see.
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Hamburger Hill is classic. Its probably one of the best portrayal of the Vietnam conflict.
Yea war sucks *****. I was one of those adrenaline junkies who joined the military right after 911 thinking that I was gonna get me some. Well I did three combat tours in Iraq and I've lost a lot of friends, some that are younger than I am and left kids behind. Im lucky to be alive and still in one piece. Its not the same as Vietnam was and I cant even imagine the things those guys went through. What sucks the most is the we neglect a lot of these veterans by not giving them care
Hamburger Hill is classic. Its probably one of the best portrayal of the Vietnam conflict.
Yea war sucks *****. I was one of those adrenaline junkies who joined the military right after 911 thinking that I was gonna get me some. Well I did three combat tours in Iraq and I've lost a lot of friends, some that are younger than I am and left kids behind. Im lucky to be alive and still in one piece. Its not the same as Vietnam was and I cant even imagine the things those guys went through. What sucks the most is the we neglect a lot of these veterans by not giving them care
Probly get my **** kicked by the mods for this (a touch political) but ...we hand out million if not billions to keep the unemployed, the aged and every other type of peep going every year ,but the government does jack **** in comparison for returned active service peeps..
I believe that ANYONE that is prepared to risk their life for thier country should be TOTALLY looked after when and if they return home.....and I mean TOTALLY ...ALL Medicals related stuff, homes to live in , money to survive at a reasonable level...discounts on everything , exemptions from taxes and friggin **** loads of other things ... and I do not just mean the injured or wounded..
but what do they do to most ...the bare minimum!!!! fu^%$ckin ****s me to tears mate .
due to the extreme political nature .I
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Oh I agree with you friend. Servicemembers dont get that much first of all and while the benefits may be good, its not all what its cacked up to be. I've seen a lot of folks get screwed and not get the care that they need due to circumstances that they cant do anything about. Unfortunately, as much as our leaders want to provide everything that we need to fight the fight and be taken care of, it costs too much money. I really have no one to blame or point a finger to. I just do my duty till my contract runs out (1.5 year left! Been in for almost 7 years now)
Anyhoo we are getting off topic here.. Im sorry moderators and everyone else..
Anyhoo we are getting off topic here.. Im sorry moderators and everyone else..
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'Unfortunately, as much as our leaders want to provide everything that we need to fight the fight and be taken care of, it costs too much money. I really have no one to blame or point a finger to.'
The problem with almost all governments worldwide, is that the people who decide when a nation goes to war, are not the people on the ground who have to do the fighting. They are also not the ones who carry the psychological and physical wounds of war with them their whole lives. I'm a firm believer in putting the politicians in harm's way before troops are deployed. If we did, most wars wouldn't be fought at all.
The casualties of war are an embarrassment to politicians, and voting more money for care of the wounded and disabled just highlights the problem, yet billions are spent when corporations fail, and crooked CEO's walk away with severance packages in the millions. The people have to foot the bills, and the 'grunt on the ground' is always worst off.
The whole system is ***-backwards.
A thread-jack too, sorry but needed to be said.
Hamburger hill was and is a great movie.
The problem with almost all governments worldwide, is that the people who decide when a nation goes to war, are not the people on the ground who have to do the fighting. They are also not the ones who carry the psychological and physical wounds of war with them their whole lives. I'm a firm believer in putting the politicians in harm's way before troops are deployed. If we did, most wars wouldn't be fought at all.
The casualties of war are an embarrassment to politicians, and voting more money for care of the wounded and disabled just highlights the problem, yet billions are spent when corporations fail, and crooked CEO's walk away with severance packages in the millions. The people have to foot the bills, and the 'grunt on the ground' is always worst off.
The whole system is ***-backwards.
A thread-jack too, sorry but needed to be said.
Hamburger hill was and is a great movie.
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+1 absolutely Pete
It ****s me even more when the money thing is used as the reason that they only help them so far too...
It is a know recorded fact that wars for large countries like the US, are a benefit to their economy because of the way the manufacturing sector gets a huge boost ...generating allot of jobs , profits and taxes for the government.. ect..
bit then the resulting people costs are not profit generating so they get the raw deal...
I like your suggestion about the politicians being made to go fight the first battle mate ...that would shut the fu^%$ckers up and make them think before going and sending others to get killed and injured in some other strange country over some internal stuff.... that may be they should keep out of ??
I have no trouble pointing the finger of blame at the peeps that cause these wars , decide when and how and then judge our service peeps afterwards...
No bloody problem at all mate ...
It ****s me even more when the money thing is used as the reason that they only help them so far too...
It is a know recorded fact that wars for large countries like the US, are a benefit to their economy because of the way the manufacturing sector gets a huge boost ...generating allot of jobs , profits and taxes for the government.. ect..
bit then the resulting people costs are not profit generating so they get the raw deal...
I like your suggestion about the politicians being made to go fight the first battle mate ...that would shut the fu^%$ckers up and make them think before going and sending others to get killed and injured in some other strange country over some internal stuff.... that may be they should keep out of ??
I have no trouble pointing the finger of blame at the peeps that cause these wars , decide when and how and then judge our service peeps afterwards...
No bloody problem at all mate ...