finding inner peace ?
#21
11-09-2008, 03:42 PM
#22
11-10-2008, 03:04 AM
RE: finding inner peace ?
ORIGINAL: CBRclassic
To over simplified Jules...
All very well to say not to do that but ?? ....
Everyone that truly cares has to take the risk ...
When we truly care ... we have to put our happiness and well being in the hands of another ..
Other wise you do not really care that much...
To believe their is some middle ground where you can just relax and be calm in havocs situation , is a myth if he truly cares that much...
Hardening up to spare yourself this, which is the other option , I feel does cause the person to loose faith in people and in the end, causes more harm to them than taking the risk of full commitment along with all its pain and suffering...
To over simplified Jules...
All very well to say not to do that but ?? ....
Everyone that truly cares has to take the risk ...
When we truly care ... we have to put our happiness and well being in the hands of another ..
Other wise you do not really care that much...
To believe their is some middle ground where you can just relax and be calm in havocs situation , is a myth if he truly cares that much...
Hardening up to spare yourself this, which is the other option , I feel does cause the person to loose faith in people and in the end, causes more harm to them than taking the risk of full commitment along with all its pain and suffering...
Steve, I see what you are saying but feel I need to clarify what I meant here ..I mean relying on your happiness soley from another person, I mean that you have to be happy in yourself first and at peace with yourself before you give to another ... if you are miserable and looking to find your happiness from another well its kinda not the way to be, that said if you are happy and meet someone its fine to put your trust in them and have them as a great part of your happiness .. once you fall in love with someone then yes, they are a very great part of your life ..you almost live for each other and do anything (within reason) for that person ..we do have to take the risk and give our hearts ..life is a risk :-) but what I am saying is that living miserably and thinking you will only be happy when you meet someone is not good ..maybe this is all coming out wrong ..I know what I mean but ..hell its a foggy day for me today ..lol
Jules
#23
11-10-2008, 03:26 AM
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RE: finding inner peace ?
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Steve, I see what you are saying but feel I need to clarify what I meant here ..I mean relying on your happiness soley from another person, I mean that you have to be happy in yourself first and at peace with yourself before you give to another ... if you are miserable and looking to find your happiness from another well its kinda not the way to be, that said if you are happy and meet someone its fine to put your trust in them and have them as a great part of your happiness .. once you fall in love with someone then yes, they are a very great part of your life ..you almost live for each other and do anything (within reason) for that person ..we do have to take the risk and give our hearts ..life is a risk :-) but what I am saying is that living miserably and thinking you will only be happy when you meet someone is not good ..maybe this is all coming out wrong ..I know what I mean but ..hell its a foggy day for me today ..lol
Jules
Steve, I see what you are saying but feel I need to clarify what I meant here ..I mean relying on your happiness soley from another person, I mean that you have to be happy in yourself first and at peace with yourself before you give to another ... if you are miserable and looking to find your happiness from another well its kinda not the way to be, that said if you are happy and meet someone its fine to put your trust in them and have them as a great part of your happiness .. once you fall in love with someone then yes, they are a very great part of your life ..you almost live for each other and do anything (within reason) for that person ..we do have to take the risk and give our hearts ..life is a risk :-) but what I am saying is that living miserably and thinking you will only be happy when you meet someone is not good ..maybe this is all coming out wrong ..I know what I mean but ..hell its a foggy day for me today ..lol
Jules
I do understand what you mean...
but..
If we tried to live by what you suggest...
This would mean that a committed loving couple that breaks up ,or get separated are not going to be totally miserable, in shock , lost or in any pain?.....
and that we should somehow hold onto our own happiness when our joint happiness has been taken away..??
I am sorry missy , but that I think is not very realistic..
I know of know one that can do that without going through all of the pain and suffering first...and I include myself from experience in this as well....
#24
11-10-2008, 03:35 AM
RE: finding inner peace ?
ORIGINAL: CBRclassic
Jules ...
I do understand what you mean...
but..
If we tried to live by what you suggest...
This would mean that a committed loving couple that breaks up ,or get separated are not going to be totally miserable, in shock , lost or in any pain?.....
and that we should somehow hold onto our own happiness when our joint happiness has been taken away..??
I am sorry missy , but that I think is not very realistic..
I know of know one that can do that without going through all of the pain and suffering first...and I include myself from experience in this as well....
Jules ...
I do understand what you mean...
but..
If we tried to live by what you suggest...
This would mean that a committed loving couple that breaks up ,or get separated are not going to be totally miserable, in shock , lost or in any pain?.....
and that we should somehow hold onto our own happiness when our joint happiness has been taken away..??
I am sorry missy , but that I think is not very realistic..
I know of know one that can do that without going through all of the pain and suffering first...and I include myself from experience in this as well....
Jules
#25
11-10-2008, 03:49 AM
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RE: finding inner peace ?
Yes Jules ..exactly..... you near could not get out of bed for 12 mths?
and without getting to far away from Havocs problem at this moment .... he has no simple answer or solution except to suffer the pain till he resolves the problem .....
sorry for the very slight th/jack Havoc
and without getting to far away from Havocs problem at this moment .... he has no simple answer or solution except to suffer the pain till he resolves the problem .....
sorry for the very slight th/jack Havoc
#26
11-10-2008, 03:58 AM
RE: finding inner peace ?
ORIGINAL: CBRclassic
Yes Jules ..exactly..... you could not get out of bed for near 12 mths?
and without getting to far away from Havocs problem at this moment .... he has no simple answer or solution except to suffer the pain till he resolves the problem .....
Yes Jules ..exactly..... you could not get out of bed for near 12 mths?
and without getting to far away from Havocs problem at this moment .... he has no simple answer or solution except to suffer the pain till he resolves the problem .....
Jules
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11-10-2008, 04:03 AM
#29
11-10-2008, 04:09 AM
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RE: finding inner peace ?
Well maybe I am missing the point sweetheart
You will give me an ulser
So you just retract that possible retraction .now!!.
**** I think I have a headache now ...[:-]
#30
11-10-2008, 04:12 AM
RE: finding inner peace ?
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Jules ..you cant say that after fairly trouncing me in a post reply battle of issues of the heart..
Jules ..you cant say that after fairly trouncing me in a post reply battle of issues of the heart..
I would never trounce you or want to ..you are one of the ones I love a lively debate with on here ..you make a lot of sense and have good life experience behind you ..you bring a whole lot to the table :-)
Jules