way off topic...lcd tvs
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way off topic...lcd tvs
I was just wondering, being as we're such a diverse bunch, if any of you are up on all the b.s. jargon tv manufacturers use to make their products sound better than anybody else's. I realise this is way off bikes but, since we're in the Saloon, I thought I'd ask. We're upgrading the kid's tv room and going an lcd tv. We're on solar power so can't justify plasma, and need a flatscreen for space reasons so the good old crt is out. That leaves lcd. I'm up on most of the jargon (refresh rates, hertz, pixels etc.) but contrast ratio versus dynamic contrast ratio has me stumped. Contrast ratio is the difference between lightest and darkest, so what's the dynamic bull? I've Googled it but am still in the dark 
(sorry). Dynamic contrast ratio is always really high compared to contrast ratio and we're supposed to see a larger number and think it must be good. I've heard there is a number that you can divide by to get the true contrast ratio, but can't find it. Don't spend time trying to find out for me, but it wouldn't surprise me if one of you will have this floating around in your head.
I got on a couple of tech sites to try and find out myself, but kept thinking about bikes, beer and other fun stuff
and didn't seem to be able to concentrate..
Like I said, I know I'm way off bikes or anything related to them, but you don't know if you don't ask.
See you later.
(sorry). Dynamic contrast ratio is always really high compared to contrast ratio and we're supposed to see a larger number and think it must be good. I've heard there is a number that you can divide by to get the true contrast ratio, but can't find it. Don't spend time trying to find out for me, but it wouldn't surprise me if one of you will have this floating around in your head.I got on a couple of tech sites to try and find out myself, but kept thinking about bikes, beer and other fun stuff
and didn't seem to be able to concentrate.. Like I said, I know I'm way off bikes or anything related to them, but you don't know if you don't ask.
See you later.
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As far as i knew , the 'Saloon' was literally that , so you aint off topic! Cos all topics GO!
Lets talk TeeeVeeeS!
BTW , I know SFA about TV's.......OoopS!
Lets talk TeeeVeeeS!
BTW , I know SFA about TV's.......OoopS!
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I have a 37" LCD unit, not the "best" make, but it does well enough to watch the racing.
I'm told the "refresher rate" should be as fast as possible to give a better picture, but as for the rest I'm just as stumped.
I just went into a store that had a whole bunch of them, and found one in my price range that showed a decent pic. Not much help, I know, sorry.
I'm told the "refresher rate" should be as fast as possible to give a better picture, but as for the rest I'm just as stumped.
I just went into a store that had a whole bunch of them, and found one in my price range that showed a decent pic. Not much help, I know, sorry.
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Off Topic?? in the Saloon... ?? 
wash your mouth out Dave!!!
Hmm... the debate regarding LCD V Plasma and all the variables of both , has cause lotsa killins all around the bloody world I recon....
Its really a question that is very similar in the amount of different answers you will get to " what chain lube !! or what tire !! and BTW -anyone dares mention the word WD40 in this thread will get there arsses deleted into the next millennium and death threats sent immediately to all family members ... LOL
Me , I just grabbed a 42" Plasma and yer , its good and yer it does eat enough electricity to power a small city ..
I know with Solar you are definately limited to LCD ... but now having rattled all that chit out , I must say that really Dave ...I am as useless as **** on a bloody bull about all the techy TV chit mate ...
Fruit ...because its for yu kids ...I would just grab the most cost effective one that fits your budget mate ...
Who care if they get a few less pixely things or if the Dynamic contrast ratio is a bit off ....what ever the **** that is ??...LOL
I would think the lowest power requirement would be high on the list of importance before all the other stuff ??
I would like to talk solar with yu though at some time
How many KW do you run mate ?
wash your mouth out Dave!!!Hmm... the debate regarding LCD V Plasma and all the variables of both , has cause lotsa killins all around the bloody world I recon....
Its really a question that is very similar in the amount of different answers you will get to " what chain lube !!
or what tire !! and BTW -anyone dares mention the word WD40 in this thread will get there arsses deleted into the next millennium and death threats sent immediately to all family members ... LOLMe , I just grabbed a 42" Plasma and yer , its good and yer it does eat enough electricity to power a small city ..
I know with Solar you are definately limited to LCD ... but now having rattled all that chit out , I must say that really Dave ...I am as useless as **** on a bloody bull about all the techy TV chit mate ...
Fruit ...because its for yu kids ...I would just grab the most cost effective one that fits your budget mate ...
Who care if they get a few less pixely things or if the Dynamic contrast ratio is a bit off ....what ever the **** that is ??...
LOL I would think the lowest power requirement would be high on the list of importance before all the other stuff ??
I would like to talk solar with yu though at some time
How many KW do you run mate ?
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No worries. I'm not a latest and greatest, gadget kind of guy and usually just walk into a store, spend ten minutes looking, point and say "I want that one" (picture Andy from little Britain). This time I thought I'd research a bit and am starting to wish I hadn't! Manufacturers advertise a couple of different models that are almost identical in specs but a few hundred bucks different in price.
I think they're taking the p!ss!
Steve. That's sound advice, trouble is I can get a good deal on one but it uses 160w and the more exy one only uses 111w. I think I'll end up with the more expensive one just to save the power. That's why I'm trying to get my head around all the other b.s. Little sods will have a better tv than we do! Ah well, when they leave home...
Solar: We've got 20 x 75w panels, so 1500w power coming in. Battery bank is 1100a/h. Inverter is 1600w all day, 2500w for half an hour with a 5000w surge capacity to start stuff running. 8kva genny for backup and running the stick welder.
I think they're taking the p!ss!
Steve. That's sound advice, trouble is I can get a good deal on one but it uses 160w and the more exy one only uses 111w. I think I'll end up with the more expensive one just to save the power. That's why I'm trying to get my head around all the other b.s. Little sods will have a better tv than we do! Ah well, when they leave home...
Solar: We've got 20 x 75w panels, so 1500w power coming in. Battery bank is 1100a/h. Inverter is 1600w all day, 2500w for half an hour with a 5000w surge capacity to start stuff running. 8kva genny for backup and running the stick welder.
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If i remember correctly from how it was explained :
Contrast ratio is the true ratio between the lightest and the darkest a pixel can get.
Dynamic contrast ratio uses an increase or decrease in the backlighting of the pixels to emphasise the light and dark ends of the scale and increase the viewing contrast ratio. ( IE - it tricks the eyes in to seeing better contrast than there actually is )
Contrast ratio is the true ratio between the lightest and the darkest a pixel can get.
Dynamic contrast ratio uses an increase or decrease in the backlighting of the pixels to emphasise the light and dark ends of the scale and increase the viewing contrast ratio. ( IE - it tricks the eyes in to seeing better contrast than there actually is )
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Hey Dave , do you have 240 accessible to you ? or is your system totally off the grid mate ? ... Your 1500 W solar sounds pretty neat mate ... do you need to run the geny much with that ?
Om only asking because we are ATM looking at a 150 acre property that is 1.5klms from the grid and it only has a **** fart 320 W solar at the moment
I have been looking into all the nuts and bolts of solar for a few weeks now and I tell yu what , its near as bad as the TV thing for the different BS flying around about it...
I appreciate any thoughts you have about your 1500W system mate ...
I have been told all sorts of stuff about the limitations even with a 1500W ..
One of the guys that I have talked to about this suggest a 3 KW (million buck) setup as being the best ....
I told him , ... that yer, if I take up bank robbing for a job I could put 3kw 's in ...
sorry for the thread jack mate ... but yu got me when you mentioned solar ...
Om only asking because we are ATM looking at a 150 acre property that is 1.5klms from the grid and it only has a **** fart 320 W solar at the moment
I have been looking into all the nuts and bolts of solar for a few weeks now and I tell yu what , its near as bad as the TV thing for the different BS flying around about it...
I appreciate any thoughts you have about your 1500W system mate ...
I have been told all sorts of stuff about the limitations even with a 1500W ..
One of the guys that I have talked to about this suggest a 3 KW (million buck) setup as being the best ....
I told him , ... that yer, if I take up bank robbing for a job I could put 3kw 's in ...
sorry for the thread jack mate ...
but yu got me when you mentioned solar ...
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Ok.... yu wanna play funny buggers got me finger poised on the big assed ban yu **** button here ... its only my powers of self restraint , good judgment and a health fear of wild buffallow being hearded through my yard by a mad chit Setheffrican thats holding me back from doin sumthin that may cause me and any bystanders massive injury Pete ...
.... if this thread turns into a wd40 nightmare its your bloody baby yu chit stirrer ..
got me finger poised on the big assed ban yu **** button here ... its only my powers of self restraint , good judgment and a health fear of wild buffallow being hearded through my yard by a mad chit Setheffrican thats holding me back from doin sumthin that may cause me and any bystanders massive injury Pete ....... if this thread turns into a wd40 nightmare its your bloody baby yu chit stirrer ..
