f4i cct: OEM vs APE
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f4i cct: OEM vs APE
im currently replacing my cct on my 02 f4i. I cant seem to adjust the ape tensioner to save my life. when i took a look at the stock cct i realized it is also adjustable. whats stopping me from adjusting that one? pros and cons?
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umm i dont know about for the f4i but for the f3 the stock cct only adjusts automatically. i think its hydraulic or something lol*dont quote me on that, its late* the ape one you just use a wrench (the one nut locks the bolt that is the tensioner in place) pretty straight forward if you mess with it for 30 seconds.
i have the APE tensioner, works great. And piece of mind it wont really fail, just need to be adjusted after a while.
i have the APE tensioner, works great. And piece of mind it wont really fail, just need to be adjusted after a while.
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I find it interesting how people will say you need to go with an APE or other type of manual CCT. They will say how much trouble the factory automatic CCT is and how unreliable it is. The one on my wifes 97 F3 needed replacing last year. It had over 40k miles on it and was 12 years old. We're talking about a $45 part. I don't see how that equates to something that is unreliable. With that type of logic, I guess my tires must be really terrible. I have to replace them every year...lol.
Anyway, it's hard to beat he reliability and functionality of the OEM CCT.
Anyway, it's hard to beat he reliability and functionality of the OEM CCT.
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not everyone is so lucky, mine made it to 12,600 miles before it went. a considerable amount less than 40k.
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I installed an ape in my last f4i, didn't go in too bad and adjusting it was pretty easy, just make sure that the noise your trying to adjust out is actually due to the tensioner. As far as the stock vs ape debate, both work fine, ones good for the life of the bike but will require adjustment every few years depending on how many miles you ride and the other is self adjusting but tends to go bad.
The "honda engineers are smarter than aftermarkets" concept doesn't apply, see, honda will never install something in their bikes that the end user (us) will ever have to adjust or mess with, especially with something having to do with timing. They have to design for the lowest common denominators' to be able to use it. The ape design is simple, effective and works great but requires some know how and willingness to work on your own bike, not really selling points for a motorcycle nowadays. Can't really compare the two. Everything is designed for idiots nowadays, which isn't always a good thing. We're heading towards an idiocracy at an alarmning rate, lol.
The "honda engineers are smarter than aftermarkets" concept doesn't apply, see, honda will never install something in their bikes that the end user (us) will ever have to adjust or mess with, especially with something having to do with timing. They have to design for the lowest common denominators' to be able to use it. The ape design is simple, effective and works great but requires some know how and willingness to work on your own bike, not really selling points for a motorcycle nowadays. Can't really compare the two. Everything is designed for idiots nowadays, which isn't always a good thing. We're heading towards an idiocracy at an alarmning rate, lol.
