Wont turn over. Loud click from relay
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Wont turn over. Loud click from relay
The battery is fully charged and tested at autozone.
The starter relay gives a loud click, you can feel it too if you hold it, then all the lights, fuel pump odometer etc resets as if I just turned it on. Every time I press the start button: loud click, everything flickers and resets.
Is this a bad relay?
I got this SAME click sound from my cj7 when I changed the starter. It ended up needing its own dedicated ground like everyone mentioned on the jeep forum, but I dont think this is the problem, is it?
****While taking off the tank, I spilled some gas, and I believe some may have kit the harnesses in the vicinity.
The starter relay gives a loud click, you can feel it too if you hold it, then all the lights, fuel pump odometer etc resets as if I just turned it on. Every time I press the start button: loud click, everything flickers and resets.
Is this a bad relay?
I got this SAME click sound from my cj7 when I changed the starter. It ended up needing its own dedicated ground like everyone mentioned on the jeep forum, but I dont think this is the problem, is it?
****While taking off the tank, I spilled some gas, and I believe some may have kit the harnesses in the vicinity.
Last edited by shok47; 10-12-2010 at 04:10 PM.
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i had this same problem with my 01. thought it was the relay because i had charged the battery. come to find out the battery was bad. it did the exact same thing you are talking about. everything resetting when you hit the button. when i hooked a charger up to mine it started right up. so i went out and bought a new battery for mine and it took care of the problem. so i am not sure what to tell you or where to look. good luck keep us posted.
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you know, I had 2 people tell me it was the battery and I was dead certain after describing to them the electronics was going haywire; alarm every 5 seconds, speedo goes up to 15 when I have fuel pump on, down to 5 when I press the start button, etc.
But I picked up the battery today from autozone, trickled charged for the night, and they IMMEDIATELY loaded tested off from the charger. It came out fine, but it still read 12.43 which sketches me out. And I believe the best way was to let the battery sit for 1 day and see if the voltage drops itself. havent did that yet.
I also tried to with 2,40, and 200amp boost from the charger but it still just clicks, sometimes with a little eletric buzzz sound. I tried popping the clutch, got it up to 6mph and nothing, tire would just drag. HYdrolocked??
But I picked up the battery today from autozone, trickled charged for the night, and they IMMEDIATELY loaded tested off from the charger. It came out fine, but it still read 12.43 which sketches me out. And I believe the best way was to let the battery sit for 1 day and see if the voltage drops itself. havent did that yet.
I also tried to with 2,40, and 200amp boost from the charger but it still just clicks, sometimes with a little eletric buzzz sound. I tried popping the clutch, got it up to 6mph and nothing, tire would just drag. HYdrolocked??
Last edited by shok47; 10-12-2010 at 04:59 PM.
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Sounds like an earthing problem, based on the fluctuations in readings etc. That's where I'd start.
Starter solenoid may also have gone bad.
It also wouldn't be the first time I've had a brand new battery fail in a day - have it checked under load. I had problems with a gate motor battery that showed 13.5 V, but died as soon as we loaded it......Bought a new one - prob solved.
FWIW
Starter solenoid may also have gone bad.
It also wouldn't be the first time I've had a brand new battery fail in a day - have it checked under load. I had problems with a gate motor battery that showed 13.5 V, but died as soon as we loaded it......Bought a new one - prob solved.
FWIW
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I got the plugs out, still can turn the motor over easy as stated. Or maybe Im not using enough muscle. but am pretty strong...
I just unplugged the battery today. went on a 2amp trickle charge from 8PM to 12:30PM. Immediately taking off the charger, the multimeter read 13.2 or so, and slowly dropped to 12.62. The drop happened within 5 minutes, more or less. I will check the battery tomorrow and see if it moves.
I believe my brother got the starter replaced a few years back, but will confirm.
Again, I want to rule out the hydrolock first so I can get those PITA spark plugs back in.
EDIT
about 15 min past and the reading is at 12.52.
I just unplugged the battery today. went on a 2amp trickle charge from 8PM to 12:30PM. Immediately taking off the charger, the multimeter read 13.2 or so, and slowly dropped to 12.62. The drop happened within 5 minutes, more or less. I will check the battery tomorrow and see if it moves.
I believe my brother got the starter replaced a few years back, but will confirm.
Again, I want to rule out the hydrolock first so I can get those PITA spark plugs back in.
EDIT
about 15 min past and the reading is at 12.52.
Last edited by shok47; 10-13-2010 at 11:45 AM.
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I tried running the starter cable on the relay to the live 12v right besides it and it did not turn, even with spark plugs out. Please someone confirm that it may very well be the starter, since direct power to the starter did nothing, except 1 noise that sounded like it tried catching on.
Removing the starter is the last I want to do!
I tried running the starter cable on the relay to the live 12v right besides it and it did not turn, even with spark plugs out. Please someone confirm that it may very well be the starter, since direct power to the starter did nothing, except 1 noise that sounded like it tried catching on.
Removing the starter is the last I want to do!
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