UK F4i, 'project' and diary
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Not such good news - took the bike for a regular run last night, it was raining there and back, around 6 miles each way. The indicators wouldn't work properly, sometimes OK if switch held on and fine with the alarm so I figure it's the switch. More worrying however, I could smell burning on the way back and when I reached home there was smoke coming from the radiator / exhaust area. It's not the first time I have smelt the burning / smouldering smell, only when used in the wet, but smoke - I've not had a bike smoking before. Investigation needed.
#24
Investigations complete:
indicators - split switch and sprayed liberally with GT85 and both now work. Right side perfectly, left side starts with a half flash before flashing normally. I'll remove and strip the switch assembly tomorrow, I suspect the pronged tabs need 'adjusting' i.e. bending.
burning smell and smoke - washed the bike with liberal amounts of water then stripped the plastics and ran the engine. Exhaust is corroded (knew that already) but still gas tight, (stainless replacement headers are planned), water is running down and sitting on top of the collector and, once hot, being boiled to steam, Surely this must be a design 'feature' ? Solution - drill some holes (3 planned) in the plate that joins 2 and 3 at the collector to let the water drain out. Does this ring any bells with anyone?
indicators - split switch and sprayed liberally with GT85 and both now work. Right side perfectly, left side starts with a half flash before flashing normally. I'll remove and strip the switch assembly tomorrow, I suspect the pronged tabs need 'adjusting' i.e. bending.
burning smell and smoke - washed the bike with liberal amounts of water then stripped the plastics and ran the engine. Exhaust is corroded (knew that already) but still gas tight, (stainless replacement headers are planned), water is running down and sitting on top of the collector and, once hot, being boiled to steam, Surely this must be a design 'feature' ? Solution - drill some holes (3 planned) in the plate that joins 2 and 3 at the collector to let the water drain out. Does this ring any bells with anyone?
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I stripped the left hand switch assembly down to components parts, cleaned everything, greased and re-assembled, it works like a new assembly now, most satisfying.
The plate at the very bottom of the exhaust has 5 6mm holes in now, I ran the bike and hosed the area and steaming was minimal and only really from the downpipes so that's solved too.
While the plastics were off I pictured the frame spars as promised:
Thoughts?
The plate at the very bottom of the exhaust has 5 6mm holes in now, I ran the bike and hosed the area and steaming was minimal and only really from the downpipes so that's solved too.
While the plastics were off I pictured the frame spars as promised:
Thoughts?
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I stripped the left hand switch assembly down to components parts, cleaned everything, greased and re-assembled, it works like a new assembly now, most satisfying.
The plate at the very bottom of the exhaust has 5 6mm holes in now, I ran the bike and hosed the area and steaming was minimal and only really from the downpipes so that's solved too.
While the plastics were off I pictured the frame spars as promised:
Thoughts?
The plate at the very bottom of the exhaust has 5 6mm holes in now, I ran the bike and hosed the area and steaming was minimal and only really from the downpipes so that's solved too.
While the plastics were off I pictured the frame spars as promised:
Thoughts?
Could you share where you drilled the holes to prevent the build up of water? this my first bike so not 100% where you mean.
How easy is it to strip the indicator switch, having never looked inside would love if you have any advice? I sprayed some GT85 in there which has helped but the switch is still a bit sticky so thinking a full strip would be best.
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jcg: Experience tells me that models of vehicles tend to have the same problems and same rust areas, just walk around a large car park and you'll spot the same rust areas on the same body shapes.... Worry not about dismantling the indicator switch, there's not so many parts to it. Watching a video should give you confidence:
I removed the switch from the bike entirely, undoing the multi-plug where it meets the loom in front of the headlight. It makes the work easier but is not necessary.
Regarding the exhaust holes if you look under the bike there's a reasonably thick plate welded between the pipes for cylinders 2 and 3, it's an obvious water collection point. Holes in the centre of this serve as drains. I used an angled drill, a conventional drill won't fit unless the bike is laid on one side or the exhaust system removed. Just make sure you drill through the centre and not though the exhaust itself. I wouldn't expect a miracle, water will still evaporate from the downpipes but worrying steaming is at least relieved. An internet search after I posted here revealed other owners having steam issues too, I am surprised nobody replied here, I figure this forum is pretty quiet.
I removed the switch from the bike entirely, undoing the multi-plug where it meets the loom in front of the headlight. It makes the work easier but is not necessary.
Regarding the exhaust holes if you look under the bike there's a reasonably thick plate welded between the pipes for cylinders 2 and 3, it's an obvious water collection point. Holes in the centre of this serve as drains. I used an angled drill, a conventional drill won't fit unless the bike is laid on one side or the exhaust system removed. Just make sure you drill through the centre and not though the exhaust itself. I wouldn't expect a miracle, water will still evaporate from the downpipes but worrying steaming is at least relieved. An internet search after I posted here revealed other owners having steam issues too, I am surprised nobody replied here, I figure this forum is pretty quiet.
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jcg: Experience tells me that models of vehicles tend to have the same problems and same rust areas, just walk around a large car park and you'll spot the same rust areas on the same body shapes.... Worry not about dismantling the indicator switch, there's not so many parts to it. Watching a video should give you confidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob4JWFQ6aTc
I removed the switch from the bike entirely, undoing the multi-plug where it meets the loom in front of the headlight. It makes the work easier but is not necessary.
Regarding the exhaust holes if you look under the bike there's a reasonably thick plate welded between the pipes for cylinders 2 and 3, it's an obvious water collection point. Holes in the centre of this serve as drains. I used an angled drill, a conventional drill won't fit unless the bike is laid on one side or the exhaust system removed. Just make sure you drill through the centre and not though the exhaust itself. I wouldn't expect a miracle, water will still evaporate from the downpipes but worrying steaming is at least relieved. An internet search after I posted here revealed other owners having steam issues too, I am surprised nobody replied here, I figure this forum is pretty quiet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob4JWFQ6aTc
I removed the switch from the bike entirely, undoing the multi-plug where it meets the loom in front of the headlight. It makes the work easier but is not necessary.
Regarding the exhaust holes if you look under the bike there's a reasonably thick plate welded between the pipes for cylinders 2 and 3, it's an obvious water collection point. Holes in the centre of this serve as drains. I used an angled drill, a conventional drill won't fit unless the bike is laid on one side or the exhaust system removed. Just make sure you drill through the centre and not though the exhaust itself. I wouldn't expect a miracle, water will still evaporate from the downpipes but worrying steaming is at least relieved. An internet search after I posted here revealed other owners having steam issues too, I am surprised nobody replied here, I figure this forum is pretty quiet.
Great video, it helped me out greatly. I managed to take a look today and the old grease in the switch had turned very sticky almost glue like. Used some contact cleaner to clean it up and then reassembled with some silicon grease in the right places, it's now working perfect.
Haven't managed to take a look at the exhaust yet so will do that next, not sure I will have a drill suitable but shall check to see.
Last edited by jcg; 12-05-2019 at 01:14 PM.
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Shame about the frame spar, you might get away with rubbing it down and painting or spraying over, have a look on RS Bike Paints (I think they’re called) I got a paint match for the frame colour on the F-Sport.
I had a VFR that went a bit like that on the frame, it was always by the VIN plate they went because of the rivet hole.
I had a VFR that went a bit like that on the frame, it was always by the VIN plate they went because of the rivet hole.