Track day/ F4i riding position vs more aggressive
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Track day/ F4i riding position vs more aggressive
For anyone whom has alot of at the track experience I would like to know how they think the F4i rates at the track considering it has a much less agressive riding positionVS the other bikes that naturally have you leanedforward a bit more in natural riding position????
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12-04-2008, 11:44 PM
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12-05-2008, 01:53 AM
RE: Track day/ F4i riding position vs more aggressive
The F-series was a very successful race bike for Honda.
The bike will scrape pegs sooner than newer bikes, but leaning it over that much takes some track experience (or should at least! One should comfortably scrape knee before getting to the pegs). The newer bikes are probably easier to flick, but again that wouldn't mean much until you gain a lot of experience. I feel like the drive-out of turns is sometimes faster on newer bikes (high end torque). On the RRs, the improvements are mainly bigger brakes and a smoother ECU.
That's about my reading so far. But I ride in the B group and I tend to pass a lot of newer 600s and liter bikes! It's so much fun I wouldn't trade the bike I'm used to, my F4i, for any other!
The bike will scrape pegs sooner than newer bikes, but leaning it over that much takes some track experience (or should at least! One should comfortably scrape knee before getting to the pegs). The newer bikes are probably easier to flick, but again that wouldn't mean much until you gain a lot of experience. I feel like the drive-out of turns is sometimes faster on newer bikes (high end torque). On the RRs, the improvements are mainly bigger brakes and a smoother ECU.
That's about my reading so far. But I ride in the B group and I tend to pass a lot of newer 600s and liter bikes! It's so much fun I wouldn't trade the bike I'm used to, my F4i, for any other!
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RE: Track day/ F4i riding position vs more aggressive
ORIGINAL: ampfp
The F-series was a very successful race bike for Honda.
The bike will scrape pegs sooner than newer bikes, but leaning it over that much takes some track experience (or should at least! One should comfortably scrape knee before getting to the pegs). The newer bikes are probably easier to flick, but again that wouldn't mean much until you gain a lot of experience. I feel like the drive-out of turns is sometimes faster on newer bikes (high end torque). On the RRs, the improvements are mainly bigger brakes and a smoother ECU.
That's about my reading so far. But I ride in the B group and I tend to pass a lot of newer 600s and liter bikes! It's so much fun I wouldn't trade the bike I'm used to, my F4i, for any other!
The F-series was a very successful race bike for Honda.
The bike will scrape pegs sooner than newer bikes, but leaning it over that much takes some track experience (or should at least! One should comfortably scrape knee before getting to the pegs). The newer bikes are probably easier to flick, but again that wouldn't mean much until you gain a lot of experience. I feel like the drive-out of turns is sometimes faster on newer bikes (high end torque). On the RRs, the improvements are mainly bigger brakes and a smoother ECU.
That's about my reading so far. But I ride in the B group and I tend to pass a lot of newer 600s and liter bikes! It's so much fun I wouldn't trade the bike I'm used to, my F4i, for any other!
Thanks for the feedback bro. Let me rephrase my question a bit, since the seating position is less aggressive is it harder to ride the bike like it should on the track. Having your body positioned to hang off SEEMS like it would be more suited for newer aggressive bikes in turns. I am just wandering if anyone thinks that taking an F4i to the track it taking it out of its natural purpose or element because maybe it is more a street touring bike and its not really made for the track?
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12-05-2008, 03:55 PM
RE: Track day/ F4i riding position vs more aggressive
Don't mean to sound like a broken record, but The F-series was a very successful race bike for Honda, up untill 6 years back. It was honda's supersport category contender. It's not really a touring bike. Fabien Foret won the 2002 supersport (i.e. 600 class) world championship for honda on an F4i, against the R6's and the Gix'6's before the RR was introduced in 2003. So it's like getting an older sportbike. but a sportbike nevertheless! It's natural element is in fact the track.
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12-05-2008, 04:56 PM
RE: Track day/ F4i riding position vs more aggressive
it's more so in the rider as far as how much rake you want, etc.
you can add some washers at the base of the shock to raise the rear or even lower the front, it will make the bike easier to turn in but you will not feel as stable in the turn....it's a give and take thing.
the F4i set up is more suited for both comfort and spirited riding, so it's not as aggressive position wise than other bikes. however, if you become used to the riding position, i should not hinder you at all.
what you should get rid of if you're going to track it is the soft stock suspension. i would even do that before rearsets, unless you're like 150 soaking wet or something.
you can add some washers at the base of the shock to raise the rear or even lower the front, it will make the bike easier to turn in but you will not feel as stable in the turn....it's a give and take thing.
the F4i set up is more suited for both comfort and spirited riding, so it's not as aggressive position wise than other bikes. however, if you become used to the riding position, i should not hinder you at all.
what you should get rid of if you're going to track it is the soft stock suspension. i would even do that before rearsets, unless you're like 150 soaking wet or something.
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RE: Track day/ F4i riding position vs more aggressive
IMO the F4i is still a fantastic track day bike. I've done 8 track days on mine with the last 4 in the advanced group. The high clip-ons take a bit getting used to, you have to really bend your elbows to get your chest downagainst the gas tank but you get used to it after a while. The stock rearsets I've never had a problem with and I getdown pretty low.
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RE: Track day/ F4i riding position vs more aggressive
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IMO the F4i is still a fantastic track day bike. I've done 8 track days on mine with the last 4 in the advanced group. The high clip-ons take a bit getting used to, you have to really bend your elbows to get your chest downagainst the gas tank but you get used to it after a while. The stock rearsets I've never had a problem with and I getdown pretty low.
IMO the F4i is still a fantastic track day bike. I've done 8 track days on mine with the last 4 in the advanced group. The high clip-ons take a bit getting used to, you have to really bend your elbows to get your chest downagainst the gas tank but you get used to it after a while. The stock rearsets I've never had a problem with and I getdown pretty low.
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12-08-2008, 12:13 PM
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I've only got one track day so for a beginner there is no problem with the clip ons/pegs. Once you get better at it and really get that thing on its side your could buy some racier rear sets.
I've only got one track day so for a beginner there is no problem with the clip ons/pegs. Once you get better at it and really get that thing on its side your could buy some racier rear sets.
if you get it set up right, you'll be dragging knee, etc. and the rearsets won't grind away.
do remove them nasty peg feelers though. just trouble waiting to happen.