Ok, the dealer isn't open yet, so I thought I'd see if anyone knows off hand. The dealer sold me a 6B21 oil filter and all of the other ones that I had before are 6B23. Same size, same threads, but the back pressure valve inside is noticably different. I want to make sure which one is correct. Don't want to use this one if it operates at different pressures. It's on an '06 F4i, but I'm almost positive it should be the same for '01-'06 models. Thanks

 

IIRC the F4 used a different filter than the F4i. I am 99% sure that they are interchangable, BUT not totally sure. They may just have a different bypass pressure. If the bypass pressure is lower on the F4 then you could run with the bypass open all the time, thus negating the filter.

IMHO I would wait until the dealer opens and exchange it. It's not like running on old oil for another day or two will destroy the motor.

 

Yeah, I got it squared away. Went down and exchanged it for the right one. I didn't want the wrong one on there if the bypass valve was open, or if it caused too low of pressure. Absolute idiots. The only way I caught it was the torque specs on the wrong filter was way off of the standard 20 ft lbs. Nobody can do anything right anymore it seems. Here's the numbers;
Wrong filter: 15410-MM9-013
Right filter: 15410-MCJ-003
They aren't even close to the same number.
I'll have to save the label so these boners don't give me the wrong one again. I think it was for an older Honda also, because the 'wing' logo on the side of the wrong filter was the classic wing design. Probably would've F'ed everything up down and sideways or exploded.

 

02 F4i. I have been using your everyday Fram filters with sucess. I think they changed the model #s over the years in the Fram charts. I had been using a PH6017A but noticed that now it shows a
PH6607. They have identical threads, diameter and gasket but the latter filter is a tad shorter. Anyway, seems to work fine. BTW, they are only about $6 at Kmart type places.

 

Cut one of those Fram's apart sometime. If they are anything like their Automotive filters (I suspect they are) I won't ever install one on my bike.

At one point in time I had a website that did oil filter comparisons. They concluded that the Honda OEM was one of the best constructed filters. As often as I have to change the oil on the bike, I still only go with OEM/Mobile 1.

 

Thanks for posting the right number. I had to walk out into the garage real quick and check my spare just for piece of mind.

 

Thats why I go with a Fram filter...because I change it with the oil about every 1,000 mi. Fram filters/Quaker State 10-40. No problemos.

 

You change oil every 1K[:@]

How many miles do you put on in a year?

The thing with the Frams is they usually use glued on cardboard endcaps. These degrade and leak. Once you have oil bypassing the filter element it's like you don't have any filter at all.

Here is one evaluation:

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html

I will try to find the original.

**edit**

Here is one of the good ones:

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/fram.shtml

Please not that I have yet to find any good reason to use FRAM filters other than they are CHEAP. I know a lot of OEM car manufacturers use FRAM, but there is a bit of difference in a 8000rpm car motor and a 14,000rpm motorcycle motor.

 

I'll repeat. Fram filters/Quaker State oil 10/40...no problemo. I ride the bike hard (for street riding) but dont really beat the engine. This is why I dont get too **** regarding particular brands.

 

Thanks for the info on fram, but I'll stick w/ the Honda OEM filters. No point in cheaping out on an expensive bike.