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Old 11-10-2007, 04:12 PM
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Any estimates for how long it takes to brake (LOL) them in? I took it for a test ride and they stopped me in a heart beat so they seem fine ot me.
 
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Just brake easier for a bit. If you brake too hard on fresh pads I believe you run the risk of glazing them (?).
 
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:17 PM
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I know that with higher performance pads and rotors on my car I performed a "bedding in" of the pads and rotors. This is a cycle of hard stops without coming to a complete stop. I believe but dont quote me that you want to do a series of 10 hard stops but not completely. Start with a 60-70 mph hard brake to about 10-20 mph and get back up to speed quickly and do this again. Maybe towards the 8-10th stop reduce the top speed to about 40-50 mph. I would first do a search to make sure I am not talking out of my ***. I am pretty sure the process is called "bedding" the brakes. The makes sure you engrave the surface of the rotors with a thin layer of pad material.
 
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:02 PM
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That's pretty much what I was planning on doing with some slower complete stops added on.
 
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As far as I know you do not want to perform completed stops during or right after the bedding in cycle. This may cause the pads to stick or cause an un-even spot of material placed on the rotors. After you perform the cycle you want to ride it for a bit to allow the pads and rotors to go back to a normal operating temperature. Then complete stops will be fine.
 
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I know that with higher performance pads and rotors on my car I performed a "bedding in" of the pads and rotors. This is a cycle of hard stops without coming to a complete stop. I believe but dont quote me that you want to do a series of 10 hard stops but not completely. Start with a 60-70 mph hard brake to about 10-20 mph and get back up to speed quickly and do this again. Maybe towards the 8-10th stop reduce the top speed to about 40-50 mph. I would first do a search to make sure I am not talking out of my ***. I am pretty sure the process is called "bedding" the brakes. The makes sure you engrave the surface of the rotors with a thin layer of pad material.
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Just don't come to a complete stop!!!

It's called a "Brake Burn In"

I do them to our airplanes all the time. The way we do it with our jets is that we'll taxi out at about 15 knots and ride the brakes down the taxiway. When we get to the runway, when increase to full throttle to about 100 knots or so, and slam on the brakes hard. we turn around, and do it again at about 50 knots.

that will set your pads and you should be thumbs up from there...
 
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As far as I know you do not want to perform completed stops during or right after the bedding in cycle. This may cause the pads to stick or cause an un-even spot of material placed on the rotors. After you perform the cycle you want to ride it for a bit to allow the pads and rotors to go back to a normal operating temperature. Then complete stops will be fine.
100% correct.
 
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What's the purpose of bedding in? I've never done it.
 
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[font="verdana"]Bedding allows your brakes to reach their full potential. Until they are bedded, your brakes simply do not work as well as they can. If you've installed a big brake kit, changed your pads and rotors, or even if you've purchased a brand new car, you should set aside some time to bed the brakes in by following the instructions below. Proper bedding will improve pedal feel, reduce or eliminate brake squeal, and extend the life of your pads and rotors. For more on the theory of bedding, please refer to this excellent article by StopTech: Removing the Mystery from Brake Pad Bed-In. Caution: After installing new pads/rotors or a big brake kit, the first few applications of the brake pedal will result in almost no braking power. Gently apply the brakes a few times at low speed in order to build up some grip before blasting down the road at high speed. Otherwise, you may be in for a nasty surprise the first time you hit the brakes at 60 mph. When following these instructions, avoid doing it around other vehicles. Bedding is often best done early in the morning, when traffic is light, since other drivers will have no idea what you are up to and will respond in a variety of ways ranging from fear to curiosity to aggression. An officer of the law will probably not understand when you try to explain why you were driving erratically! Zeckhausen Racing does not endorse speeding on public roads and takes no responsibility for any injuries or tickets you may receive while following these instructions. [ol][*] From a speed of about 60mph, gently apply the brakes a couple of times to bring them up to operating temperature. This prevents you from thermally shocking the rotors and pads in the next steps.[*] Make a series of eight near-stops from 60 to about 10 mph. Do it HARD by pressing on the brakes firmly, just shy of locking the wheels or engaging ABS. At the end of each slowdown, immediately accelerate back to 60mph. DO NOT COME TO A COMPLETE STOP! If you stop completely and sit for any length of time with your foot on the brake pedal, you will imprint pad material onto the hot rotors, which can lead to vibration, uneven braking, and could even ruin the rotors. With some less aggressive street pads, you may need fewer than eight near-stops. If your pedal gets soft or you feel the brakes going away, then you've done enough. Proceed to the next step.[*] The brakes may begin to fade slightly after the 7th or 8th near-stop. This fade will stabilize, but not completely go away until the brakes have fully cooled. A strong smell from the brakes, and even smoke, is normal.[*] After the 8th near-stop, accelerate back up to speed and cruise for a while, using the brakes as little as possible. The brakes need 5 to 10 minutes to cool down. Try not to become trapped in traffic or come to a complete stop while the brakes are still hot.[*] If club race pads, such as Hawk Blue, are being used, add four near-stops from 80 to 10mph. If full race pads, such as Performance Friction 01 or Hawk HT 14, are being used, add four near-stops from 100 to 10 mph.[*] After the break-in cycle, there should be a slight blue tint and a light gray film on the rotor face. The blue tint tells you the rotor has reached break-in temperature and the gray film is pad material
 
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I may give this a shot at my next pad change. Last time around, I did a2-3 minbrake check, 2-up ride and then hit the track the next day. I guess I never got the best brakes, huh?
 


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