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Old Mar 10, 2020 | 09:05 AM
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Last night after pulling into the garage I noticed a slight metallic noise at idle. Its difficult to really point it out as the bike is so damn loud and I'm considering reinstalling a stock-ish muffler. The rhythm of the noise does not change with RPM, or at least from what I can still hear when I try to give it some throttle. Fluid levels looked good after the ride, I did change the oil with Shell Rotella last weekend.
It sounds similar to overhead valve ticking in my cars. However, that noise would change with RPM.
Has anyone had a similar experience or possibly point me in the direction to start diagnosis. I'm not very familiar with bike engines yet.
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Old Mar 10, 2020 | 03:33 PM
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Not sure what could tick but not change speed with rpm.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2020 | 06:45 PM
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If you can get an idea where it is coming from, that might help. It can be tough to diagnosis a general noise like that without much context...
 
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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by boredandstroked
Not sure what could tick but not change speed with rpm.
That's what has me stumped. I could still barely hear it when I would give it some throttle and it didn't seem to change with the RPM. Any recommendations for some sort of stethoscope tool or method to try and pinpoint the noise?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 06:42 PM
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Thats the trouble with noises , can be hard to even find the location let alone the cause.
Ive used a screwdriver as a stethoscope before, not the ideal tool for the job but hey. I used one that had the metal at the end of the handle exposed so you can hit it with a hammer. Works well enough.

A real long shot, if its not really changing with the RPM , just try putting a little pressure on your clutch lever to see if the noise stops.
A couple of years ago I thought something in the top end was going because of this tapping noise I was getting. Didn't really change with rpm.
If I just pulled slightly on the clutch lever it would stop. Turned out to be a problem with the clutch pull rod bearing (not sure of the actual name) ,
I took it out and made sure it was clean and reseated it. The noise went away.
Came back the next spring, same thing fixed it. I need to replace it just havent gotten to it.

Dont know how rare or common this problem is , but worth taking two seconds to see if it could be the cause or not.
Either way I hope you figure it out , good luck.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2020 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by F4i4ever
Thats the trouble with noises , can be hard to even find the location let alone the cause.
Ive used a screwdriver as a stethoscope before, not the ideal tool for the job but hey. I used one that had the metal at the end of the handle exposed so you can hit it with a hammer. Works well enough.

A real long shot, if its not really changing with the RPM , just try putting a little pressure on your clutch lever to see if the noise stops.
A couple of years ago I thought something in the top end was going because of this tapping noise I was getting. Didn't really change with rpm.
If I just pulled slightly on the clutch lever it would stop. Turned out to be a problem with the clutch pull rod bearing (not sure of the actual name) ,
I took it out and made sure it was clean and reseated it. The noise went away.
Came back the next spring, same thing fixed it. I need to replace it just havent gotten to it.

Dont know how rare or common this problem is , but worth taking two seconds to see if it could be the cause or not.
Either way I hope you figure it out , good luck.
I will give that a try tonight, thanks.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by F4i4ever
Thats the trouble with noises , can be hard to even find the location let alone the cause.
Ive used a screwdriver as a stethoscope before, not the ideal tool for the job but hey. I used one that had the metal at the end of the handle exposed so you can hit it with a hammer. Works well enough.

A real long shot, if its not really changing with the RPM , just try putting a little pressure on your clutch lever to see if the noise stops.
A couple of years ago I thought something in the top end was going because of this tapping noise I was getting. Didn't really change with rpm.
If I just pulled slightly on the clutch lever it would stop. Turned out to be a problem with the clutch pull rod bearing (not sure of the actual name) ,
I took it out and made sure it was clean and reseated it. The noise went away.
Came back the next spring, same thing fixed it. I need to replace it just havent gotten to it.

Dont know how rare or common this problem is , but worth taking two seconds to see if it could be the cause or not.
Either way I hope you figure it out , good luck.
It took a while to get back to the bike but now that some things have settled I can put more time into the bike. Not to mention I have a whole lot of free time now that COVID-19 has shut most things down.

No changes when applying pressure to the clutch lever. I tried the screwdriver stethoscope and it worked better than expected. It sounds as though its coming from the crankcase cover. That was the only part where I could hear it through the screwdriver. Still unsure how to move forward, couldn't really hear much change when I tried giving it some throttle.
 

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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 05:06 PM
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The only things that won't change with RPM while sitting still are transmission and driveline related.
 
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