RE: Adjusting Swingarm?
By golly Krash....I think you've had a stroke of genius.
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RE: Adjusting Swingarm?
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Right when i had to time to work on the bike and see what's wrong this site went down[:'(] but now that it's up here's an update:
So I released the shock from the dogbone and swingarm link. And this is what i think is the problem. Once the swingarm was detached i was able to bring it down enough to where the bike would not sit as low before. But the problem lies within the shock im guessing because it is not long enough to connect to the swingarm link to the height i want it to be at. pics: Attachment 72151 And this is the height at which it should be at but the shock is not long enough for me to connect it to the swingarm link: Attachment 72152 This is how it should be sitting, but the shock is just not long enough: Attachment 72153 The shock itself looks fine: Attachment 72154 ORIGINAL: krash going to need more pics. those pics dont really tell anything. I was thinking, the only 2 things other than the shock being blown, is possibly you jacked up the dogbone assembly. Take a picture of lower mounting end of the shock. it mounts to 2 plates, with a bolt in the middle, and then that bolts to "dog bone". Attachment 72155 ORIGINAL: krash if you push on the back end of the bike, does it bounce up and down easily? I dunno, the more I think about this, it cant be your shock. the spring is what holds the bike up, the shock only slows down the spring once its in motion. the spring wont sag just becuase the shock is holding pressure. Thanks krash and all the others for the help, one step closer to being back on the road :) |
RE: Adjusting Swingarm?
the preload only adjusts the spring length and pressure, although, I guess if you turned the preload all the way up it could possibly apply enough spring pressure to "pull" the shock back out. if thats the problem.
although, I'm still not convinced there is not a problem in your linkage somwhere. either there where it connects to the pivot plates, or on the bottom where it connects to the engine housing. let me load up some pics for you to compare it |
RE: Adjusting Swingarm?
my first part that I am really unsure of in the linkage is this part, not sure if this is the actual "dogbone" or if its the other part.(the other part looks like a dog bone to me, but everybody calls these pivot plates the dogbone. whatever, mine look like they have more angle than yours. it could just be the way the picture was taken, but here are a couple pics of mine for reference
up close, tried to get the same angle you have, notice how much of an angle there is compared to yours? http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...linkage001.jpg here is a couple more view: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...linkage002.jpg one from the other side: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...linkage009.jpg But what about the bottom where it mounts to the engine? http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...linkage007.jpg http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...linkage006.jpg http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...linkage005.jpg http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...linkage003.jpg |
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wow i think i know what most of the problem may be. So here is my dogbone detached from the bike:
Attachment 72128 Attachment 72129 You can even see the stress and bend marks. It has to be this. But i'm not sure whether this is the ONLY problem, i don't think replacing it would add much more height but i could be wrong. |
RE: Adjusting Swingarm?
yeah, you got like 3/4" worth of bend there. that is for sure the problem. that little bit will make a tremendous amount of difference on the geometry of the bike.
If you go back and look at my pics where I had the bottom bolt out, you can see my shock isnt very far off from the mounting points, and compared to yours with the bend, they would be about the same. now, after all is said and done, that took a tremendous amount of force on the shock compressing to actually bend that, so its possible that you may have blown some seals in your shock. if it were me, I would buy a whole assembly, used, off ebay. buy a new shock(used) and new plates. your probably looking at about $75 total. but the piece of mind knowing that your shock and linkage is all good will let you sleep at night. if not, your always going to be doubting the performance of the shock. |
RE: Adjusting Swingarm?
Yeah i think i'm gonna trash the shock i have now, either get a stock replacement, ohlins or penske. Thanks for all the help krash, couldn't have done it without ya. I'll update some pics with the bike put back together, hopefully SOON. 1.5 months with no bike i'm slowly dying inside.
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RE: Adjusting Swingarm?
Yep. replacement is in order. Keep us posted. Check for other cracks/ warps as well. Make sure that's the only misalignment.
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