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Old 05-30-2008 | 06:57 PM
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Im not trying to jinx it, but I rode 50 miles today and though most of it was highway, some was stop and go. Bike never died. Im thinking it might have been a result of the oil being SUPER low and that affecting something else (though I had no idea what) which cause it to die the past few days.

Im going to keep riding and trying to see if it doesnt start stalling on me again...

Ill keep this thread updated after the gas treatment, etc.
 
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Old 05-30-2008 | 07:39 PM
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Call me green but I've never heard of a bike that gets its oil changed every 3k miles losing a significant amount of oil between changes. Either the bike was neglected or there's a problem. Are you sure you were looking at the oil window with the engine off and the bike straight up, not leaned over on the kickstand?
 
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Old 05-30-2008 | 07:43 PM
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Call me green but I've never heard of a bike that gets its oil changed every 3k miles losing a significant amount of oil between changes. Either the bike was neglected or there's a problem. Are you sure you were looking at the oil window with the engine off and the bike straight up, not leaned over on the kickstand?
The current owner rode it for 1k miles and I wouldnt be surprised if he never even checked the oil (I know he didnt change it in his 6 months of ownership). The owner previous to that beat the snot out of the bike on the track...I think thats where the oil loss may have occurred.

Yes, I checked the window with the bike standing up straight and it couldnt even be seen in the looking glass. I added about 1 qt of oil and its now dead center between the lines with the bike standing up.

Once I fix the CCTL, Ill better be able to hear the motor to make sure all is well. Im planning on changing the oil out next week anyhow to some Repsol 10w40 (Honda dealer has it 20% off) and a Honda filter (came with the bike).
 
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Old 06-02-2008 | 10:42 PM
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Unfortunatley, the issue isnt fixed as I had hoped (which sucks).

This weekend I was out riding around and the bike had been acting great with no signs of stalling. I rode it to and from work on Friday (50+ miles) without a hitch. Then yesterday I took it out in the afternoon and all was well for the first few minutes. I went and filled it up and as I was waiting my turn to leave the gas station the bike died at idle. It immediately fired back up at the push of the button.

Then Im driving down a country road (maybe 15 minutes later)at about 45mph when I feel the bike shudder a bit and then the rpms drop to zero, the FI light illuminates, and then the bike fires back up on its own (all the while doing 45mph). The bike must have restarted itself similar to a bump start with the clutch (though I didnt do that). Then a few seconds later the same thing occurs again...same outcome with the bike restarting itself.

I get the bike home, throw some fuel injector cleaner into the tank (at a proper ratio) and all of a sudden the bike is hesitant to start again. I try to fire it back up immediately with no luck. I wait a few minutes and it fires right up...I give it a few revs and it dies. Try to start it again and it wont fire up. Give it a few seconds and it fires up and allows for a quick ride around the parking lot.

I was trying to see if I couldnt discern a pattern of "it only happens when the bike is really hot" or "only when the bike is getting warmed up" but I have no idea as to what is causing this or why.

One thing that might be a bit weird is that after the bike dies, I can sometimes hear the fuel pump reprime itself. I dont know if thats because the bike lost and then regained power or if maybe something is screwy with the fuel pump.

Sorry for the long post...just trying to be as descriptive as possible for you detectives.
 
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Old 06-02-2008 | 11:08 PM
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Def sounds like loose connections.. sorry[&:]
 
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Old 06-02-2008 | 11:14 PM
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Def sounds like loose connections.. sorry[&:]
You think its connections to the battery? I just cant figure out how or why they would become disconnected momentarily only to be reconnected strongly for 15+ minutes and then disconnected again??
 
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Old 06-03-2008 | 01:14 PM
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As mentioned before, when this happened, did you pop the tank and see if it has a lot of built up pressure?
 
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Old 06-03-2008 | 01:20 PM
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As mentioned before, when this happened, did you pop the tank and see if it has a lot of built up pressure?
The first 3 times I really didnt have a chance to open up the tank.

Then the last time it hapenned, I had just opened the tank and added some injector cleaner.In that case it wouldnt have had an oppportunity to build up any pressure between closing the tank and trying to start the motor. Ill see if it doesnt happen again today while on the road (it always happens at inopportune times).
 
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Old 06-03-2008 | 02:47 PM
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When you were riding at 45 mph and the RPMs dropped to zero, was that with the clutch engaged? If so, your motor was still spinning, so the problem is electrical without a doubt.
 
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Old 06-03-2008 | 02:56 PM
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When you were riding at 45 mph and the RPMs dropped to zero, was that with the clutch engaged? If so, your motor was still spinning, so the problem is electrical without a doubt.
When riding at 45mph I believe I was in 3rd gear with the throttle cracked open a little and the clutch was fully out. I tend to think of engaged meaning I had the clutch pulled in. Do you mean engaged as in it was fully out (not being used)?

Both times it happened at45mph were seemingly random (not lugging the motor, not engaging the clutch, not braking, not downshifting) just kinda cruising along leisurely.

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