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Old May 27, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Goloth
anybody know if it could be from a lack of any sort of fluid?
Gas, its the only fluid - or lack thereof - that should prevent the bike from starting.
Start by checking that the engine/carbs gets gas at all. If they don't stat withe the simple, like checking the petcock.
If they do and you have sparks on the plugs, then chances are that the carbs are getting to much gas or too little air, so adjust the mixture/carbs.

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Also, anybody think I could have screwed up a coil in the wreck?
Have you checked the plugs for spark?

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Also, I heard something about if a headlight's not plugged in some bikes won't start, is that true with f2's?
No.
 

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Old May 27, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Well, I checked spark but I dunno if I did it right, I pulled a plunger off the first plug and stuck a copper wire (one that had been ripped off in the accident, it went to my front turn signal... but anyways,) I stuck the copper wire up in the plunger and ground the wire to the frame... no spark when I hit the starter, should I use an actual plug to test the spark or would that be okay??

Also, I just had another thought... do F2's have a tip sensor? And... My fuses what are the chance I blew one of those? Also, I know I have a bad r/r or stator, would that have anything to do with it?
 
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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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the way u tested is fine, u should see spark, so go from there

also read your other thread, i found riding with more experienced friends that are patient can go a long way

i crashed last yr and had and almost high sided, i figured out what went wrong ( downhill sharp turn, tire slipped on tar strips, and the almost high side, cold tires) and made sure not to repeat the mistakes and slowly built up the confidence in my tires again.

best of luck youll get it running
 
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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Your engine needs 3 things: gas, spark, compression.

First spark: pull a spark plug out and plug it back in. now insulate yourself and hold the spark plug against the engine case and crank it, see if it sparks. (If you have a timing light, that is an easier way to test). Also make sure the plugs are not fouled.

Fuel: The best way I've found to make sure there's fuel is to open up a float drain (flathead screw on left of carbs). See if gas comes out - either right out of the float or down a little tube attached to it. That will isolate if its upstream of that (tank - petcock - filter - pump - floats). If it is, you can diagnose those issues. Downstream, it is a carb issue, and I won't get into that right now unless you narrow it to that.

Compression: you shouldn't have a problem here if it ran before the crash.
 
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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Yeah, what Bob said. The way I read your post you did spark test WRONG. You said you grounded bare end of copper wire to frame. If using wire, screwdriver, nail...or anything else besides a sparkplug you have to hold it about 1/8" from a good ground and check. The spark should jump the gap. Bob is right, just use a plug..much easier. I suggested loosening the drain screws on the bowls to check if fuel is reaching carbs quite a while ago. You never reported back. Gotta do these checks! Asking for more information instead of checking what is suggested isn't gonna get your bike fixed. Checking fire with plug is easy. Grab a spare plug and you don't even have to bother with removing one of yours (F2/3's are a pain). The drain screw is easy. Check fire, then the drain, then report back.
 
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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SHE STARTED!!! OMG SHE STARTED!!! I F**KING LOVE HER!!! AHH HER SWEET SOUND RESONATES... But she makes a very light ticking noise when I pulled in the clutch... (and she smoked a bit when I revved her but it was very little, I think it was from gas cause the engine flooded when I crashed it so it probably burned that off, she sounds amazing other than that ticking, and she runs pretty hot... but probably because she's short on oil, I also was kinda hard on her since she hasn't run in a couple weeks, revved her RPM's pretty high, so that probably hurt more than helped... but what could the ticking noise be when I pull in the clutch??? It's very light...
 
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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that ticking is your heartbeat. Your heart is telling you to ride until the motor seizes
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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^ what he said

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1) fill it up with oil all the way and see if it goes away
2) does the frequency vary with engine rpm or not?
3)did the bike go down on the clutch (right) side?
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:58 AM
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Just out of curiosity - what did you do to make it start?
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 07:00 AM
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I walked outside, and just kinda was looking at it, stuck my key in the ignition, tried to press the electric start.... and nothing happened, so I was like wtf?!?!?, then I discovered that I must've loosened a wire day before yesterday when I put the gauges on to test the kick-stand sensor, which turned out to be okay, I re-hooked up the cable, hit the starter, and BOOOOOOM!! she started loud 'n clear, died after a minute, but she started, I think she died cause it's been so long... so she should be okay on that... Imma put the oil in it, and I'll test the RPM frequency when I wake up... I got a prison sentencing to go to in 3 hours and I got pretty f--ked up last night... anyways, yeah, thanks for the advice all! Keep it coming!!

P.S. the bike went down on the right side, but isn't the clutch on the left silly? lol. But yeah, it went down on the right, cause I low sided it.
 
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