954 Starting Problem
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06-21-2007, 08:03 PM
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954 Starting Problem
OK, here's the deal:
Problem:
The bike cranks and cranks, but will not turn over. If I keep cranking the starter for long enough, it will eventually start, although occasionally the battery has died before that occurred. Before and after starting, the bike runs perfectly.
ONLY Happens under the following condition:
The bike IS above 210F or has been within the past 20min. I stop, usually for fuel, then try starting within 15min. Happens only in the summer.
What's Non-Stock:
[ul][*]Devil Shotgun aftermarket slip-on[*]Air-Flapper in Intake Box Removed[*]PCIIIr (Doesn't Matter What Map I Use)
[ul][*]Doesn't matter what map I use[*]Has been custom mapped and dynoed[/ul][/ul] I was wondering if it could be the fuel pressure regulator. There are no unusual noises. I have had the full 16k service done since this started happening. The problem is super limited, although it is terribly annoying. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Please keep in mind that the bike runs perfect before I stop it and prefect once I finally get it started. There are no weird noises, smells, or leaking fluid when I am having this problem.
Problem:
The bike cranks and cranks, but will not turn over. If I keep cranking the starter for long enough, it will eventually start, although occasionally the battery has died before that occurred. Before and after starting, the bike runs perfectly.
ONLY Happens under the following condition:
The bike IS above 210F or has been within the past 20min. I stop, usually for fuel, then try starting within 15min. Happens only in the summer.
What's Non-Stock:
[ul][*]Devil Shotgun aftermarket slip-on[*]Air-Flapper in Intake Box Removed[*]PCIIIr (Doesn't Matter What Map I Use)
[ul][*]Doesn't matter what map I use[*]Has been custom mapped and dynoed[/ul][/ul] I was wondering if it could be the fuel pressure regulator. There are no unusual noises. I have had the full 16k service done since this started happening. The problem is super limited, although it is terribly annoying. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Please keep in mind that the bike runs perfect before I stop it and prefect once I finally get it started. There are no weird noises, smells, or leaking fluid when I am having this problem.
#2
06-21-2007, 09:52 PM
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06-22-2007, 01:03 AM
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06-25-2007, 02:35 PM
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06-25-2007, 09:01 PM
#7
06-26-2007, 08:28 PM
RE: 954 Starting Problem
I had the same problem. When the bike was hot it would not start, but you can push start the bike and it works fine? Well, with my bike it was in the shop for almost 3 weeks. The dealer could not figure out the problem, and it went all the way to having a technician from Honda going out to the dealer to look at the bike. The Tech. never heard of the problem and sent back a report to the dealer providing them with a list of parts to start replacing. The idea was they would replace the entire starting system one piece at a time, retesting after each new part was install. Sooner or later they would find the problem. It turned out there was a component in the starter that was shorting out when the bike was hot. If your shop can not find the problem tell them to talk to the shop at the Redlands, CA Honda/Yamaha dealer. I'm sure they have not forgotten my bike and would be able to point your guys in the right direction. [/align]
Let me know if this helps.
Let me know if this helps.
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06-27-2007, 09:59 PM
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RE: 954 Starting Problem
ORIGINAL: ssrdrifter
I had the same problem. When the bike was hot it would not start, but you can push start the bike and it works fine? Well, with my bike it was in the shop for almost 3 weeks. The dealer could not figure out the problem, and it went all the way to having a technician from Honda going out to the dealer to look at the bike. The Tech. never heard of the problem and sent back a report to the dealer providing them with a list of parts to start replacing. The idea was they would replace the entire starting system one piece at a time, retesting after each new part was install. Sooner or later they would find the problem. It turned out there was a component in the starter that was shorting out when the bike was hot. If your shop can not find the problem tell them to talk to the shop at the Redlands, CA Honda/Yamaha dealer. I'm sure they have not forgotten my bike and would be able to point your guys in the right direction. [/align]
Let me know if this helps.
I had the same problem. When the bike was hot it would not start, but you can push start the bike and it works fine? Well, with my bike it was in the shop for almost 3 weeks. The dealer could not figure out the problem, and it went all the way to having a technician from Honda going out to the dealer to look at the bike. The Tech. never heard of the problem and sent back a report to the dealer providing them with a list of parts to start replacing. The idea was they would replace the entire starting system one piece at a time, retesting after each new part was install. Sooner or later they would find the problem. It turned out there was a component in the starter that was shorting out when the bike was hot. If your shop can not find the problem tell them to talk to the shop at the Redlands, CA Honda/Yamaha dealer. I'm sure they have not forgotten my bike and would be able to point your guys in the right direction. [/align]
Let me know if this helps.
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06-28-2007, 09:56 PM