My first bike ever... any tips?
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03-18-2006 | 01:36 PM
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RE: My first bike ever... any tips?
IMO buying a brand new bike for your first street bike is not a wise move because the RR is no wimpy *** bike, then you got insurance to get and it will be high and then shortly you will have a claim almost guaranteed ive saw this to many times, im not trying to rain on your party but just warn you of your new purchase and future. Also if you really want to scare you silly ride in the rain after it hasnt rained in awhile and its really slick (oily), hope this doesnt make you mad just some pointers.
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03-19-2006 | 06:51 PM
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RE: My first bike ever... any tips?
i agree with the last poster.
it never seizes to amaze me how beginners go out and buy a brand new 600rr and then ask for advice like..... "i have no idea how it will handle, how it rides, or how fast it is, could somebody tell me?".
it's like.......well don't buy the damm thing if ya don't have any idear about it....
it never seizes to amaze me how beginners go out and buy a brand new 600rr and then ask for advice like..... "i have no idea how it will handle, how it rides, or how fast it is, could somebody tell me?".
it's like.......well don't buy the damm thing if ya don't have any idear about it....
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03-19-2006 | 07:25 PM
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RE: My first bike ever... any tips?
ORIGINAL: Fretless33
Oh my God!!! I'm going to blow this reply up to poster size and hang it on my living room wall!!! This has got to be the smartest, most level headed new rider I've ever read a post from! Do you know how rare it is to read something like this from a new rider on an RR message board!? It's almost unheard of...
And guess what...Crackers? You'll probably smoke about 50% of these newbies on their RR with your 250 within a year on the track and the rest when you get your RR!!!
If you don't mind, I'm probably going to use this reply on a few other message boards...you made me proud Crackers...you made me proud!
ORIGINAL: Crackers
this whole thread cracks me up. ya ya, Crackers, harr harr.
Anyway, the reason it cracks me up is the fact that some of the new riders here are even trying to argue with the people that appear to be experienced riders. I'll tell you right now, I just turned 20 years old and i'm just starting to ride. No I didn't choose a Hayabusa to start. Not a 900RR. Hell, not even a 600. I'm on a Ninja250. I'm going to learn the dynamics of riding, the threshold of grip, the lean characteristcs, etc... of a lighweight, low powered motorycle before I move on to real track machines. (I'm on CBR forums because i'm planning to get a CBR asap. I'm getting awfully sick of this whole Fast and Furious culture my peers are submersed in. It's arrogant, ignorant, and disrespectful to the sport, and it's why the older folk look down on us. I think just now it's starting to seep into the motorcycle world. I've been a car guy all my life and i'm starting to see the same crowd of people that buy a Mitsu Evo, and crash it in the first week because they think AWD means "more grip" move into the bike world. Never mind taking some time to learn the fundamentals (and particulars) of motor vehicle control. "I'm a coordinated person, I can handle it. So i'm going to start on the fastest best handling thing around." That kind of mentality sends cats straight to the ER. I'm not saying any particular person who has written a response is any of the three above adjectives, but I do see some diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain if you catch my drift. Better brakes, handling, engine response, etc... does NOT make an easier bike to learn on. A McLaren F1 has all those things in spades, but should a 16 year old learn to drive on one? NO. There is an inverse relationship between vehicle performance, and operator skill level. The better the machine and the less skilled the operater, the more bones will be broken. Conversely, put Valentino Rossi on a "lowly" Ninja 250, and he'll have the bike learned in minutes. Learning on a superbike CAN be done, but then again I guess a blind man "could" climb Mount Everest. heh. Flame off.
Sorry, I got a little fired up there for a minute. If you want a Cliff Notes of the above, it's this. Guys n' Gals: New Riders: Listen to what some of these old dogs have to say. They've been around the block a few times. Stop thinking five minutes in front of your face and take the time to do it right. If you value the feel of smooth skin or the ability to tie your own shoes, slow it down learn on little bikes. And for the love of god, take a MSF course, basic and then advanced once you're ready.
this whole thread cracks me up. ya ya, Crackers, harr harr.
Anyway, the reason it cracks me up is the fact that some of the new riders here are even trying to argue with the people that appear to be experienced riders. I'll tell you right now, I just turned 20 years old and i'm just starting to ride. No I didn't choose a Hayabusa to start. Not a 900RR. Hell, not even a 600. I'm on a Ninja250. I'm going to learn the dynamics of riding, the threshold of grip, the lean characteristcs, etc... of a lighweight, low powered motorycle before I move on to real track machines. (I'm on CBR forums because i'm planning to get a CBR asap. I'm getting awfully sick of this whole Fast and Furious culture my peers are submersed in. It's arrogant, ignorant, and disrespectful to the sport, and it's why the older folk look down on us. I think just now it's starting to seep into the motorcycle world. I've been a car guy all my life and i'm starting to see the same crowd of people that buy a Mitsu Evo, and crash it in the first week because they think AWD means "more grip" move into the bike world. Never mind taking some time to learn the fundamentals (and particulars) of motor vehicle control. "I'm a coordinated person, I can handle it. So i'm going to start on the fastest best handling thing around." That kind of mentality sends cats straight to the ER. I'm not saying any particular person who has written a response is any of the three above adjectives, but I do see some diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain if you catch my drift. Better brakes, handling, engine response, etc... does NOT make an easier bike to learn on. A McLaren F1 has all those things in spades, but should a 16 year old learn to drive on one? NO. There is an inverse relationship between vehicle performance, and operator skill level. The better the machine and the less skilled the operater, the more bones will be broken. Conversely, put Valentino Rossi on a "lowly" Ninja 250, and he'll have the bike learned in minutes. Learning on a superbike CAN be done, but then again I guess a blind man "could" climb Mount Everest. heh. Flame off.
Sorry, I got a little fired up there for a minute. If you want a Cliff Notes of the above, it's this. Guys n' Gals: New Riders: Listen to what some of these old dogs have to say. They've been around the block a few times. Stop thinking five minutes in front of your face and take the time to do it right. If you value the feel of smooth skin or the ability to tie your own shoes, slow it down learn on little bikes. And for the love of god, take a MSF course, basic and then advanced once you're ready.
And guess what...Crackers? You'll probably smoke about 50% of these newbies on their RR with your 250 within a year on the track and the rest when you get your RR!!!
If you don't mind, I'm probably going to use this reply on a few other message boards...you made me proud Crackers...you made me proud!
#75
03-20-2006 | 01:59 PM
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RE: My first bike ever... any tips?
go out and buy a brand new 600rr and then ask
NINE2NINE...
...........ehhmm . As the original thread poster, I strip from you the right to nominate responses for The Best Thread Ever competition [8D]
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03-20-2006 | 03:20 PM
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RE: My first bike ever... any tips?
ORIGINAL: ashsammy
I am getting my cbr600rr 2006 on Sat, my first real bike ever (after the 50cc honda when I was 13 of course, now 22). I don't know what to expect from it, handling, speed, power-wise. Anyone had this before? How was it?
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I am getting my cbr600rr 2006 on Sat, my first real bike ever (after the 50cc honda when I was 13 of course, now 22). I don't know what to expect from it, handling, speed, power-wise. Anyone had this before? How was it?
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and this is exactly what i was talking about....you have no idea how to ride or even how the bike is compared to anything else........be careful because nobody wants you to become another statistic.
i started with a 600....f4i to be exact, however i had experience and knew a bit about riding......you're starting with a race ready 600 and have no experience period (besides that little 50cc).......i would advise against that.
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Dude i am in the same position as you, My 600 RR is my first bike exept for a 85cc dirt bike. I just got it last night so i havent been able to ride it, except from the dealer to here wich was only 6 miles. But enough to realize this is an awesome bike. I was amazed how easy it was to drive. The secret to being safe is to be confortable on the bike but never loose the respect for it. Enjoy it.
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04-13-2006 | 05:13 AM
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RE: My first bike ever... any tips?
Gooseman sorry I haven't replied immediately, but I did watch the 50mb video, and must say thats just crazy speed for such road with many blind corners. There are plenty of good wide turns where I could go fast which don't even have blind corners, the quality of the streets here in Dubai are pretty good for riding, except for wreckless traffic I should be wary of, but I often go out late at night when the streets are empty. I've gone 190 Kph so far. I read that the maximun speed for the 600rr is 230-266, some said 288 kph.
CRAZY_600RR, I took Fretless' slangs probably the same as you would take them now, I doubt he really had a screwed up experience when once was a noob on a super-bike, and now he throws stuff and keeps "secrets" in order to justify all that, but I would rather have him share that experience for us to learn from than hear discouraging crap. No one wants to be discouraged. I doubt the secret now is that because I haven't really took any of his that I am much more comfortable now than 2 months ago.
One thing I found myself noticeably improving in is response and apprehension to surrounding traffic, with more street practice it will become easier to tell when other drivers are likely to change lanes, slow down, stop and such, so in the begining just stay easy and try not rush between cars until you have a good idea on traffic flow conditions and drivers probable maneuvers in accordance with traffic situation ahead (in example, most drivers on a particular highway heading towards a particular city at 6pm are likely to be returning from work and prefer takin the right turn so most drivers on the left lane are likely to change lanes, so then you can be wary of those on that lane), in about 2 months you'll probably learn such things about the streets in your city.
; )
CRAZY_600RR, I took Fretless' slangs probably the same as you would take them now, I doubt he really had a screwed up experience when once was a noob on a super-bike, and now he throws stuff and keeps "secrets" in order to justify all that, but I would rather have him share that experience for us to learn from than hear discouraging crap. No one wants to be discouraged. I doubt the secret now is that because I haven't really took any of his that I am much more comfortable now than 2 months ago.
One thing I found myself noticeably improving in is response and apprehension to surrounding traffic, with more street practice it will become easier to tell when other drivers are likely to change lanes, slow down, stop and such, so in the begining just stay easy and try not rush between cars until you have a good idea on traffic flow conditions and drivers probable maneuvers in accordance with traffic situation ahead (in example, most drivers on a particular highway heading towards a particular city at 6pm are likely to be returning from work and prefer takin the right turn so most drivers on the left lane are likely to change lanes, so then you can be wary of those on that lane), in about 2 months you'll probably learn such things about the streets in your city.
; )