A little help pls
#12
08-04-2007, 01:26 AM
RE: A little help pls
Hehe okay,
Thanks every1 for the feed back. I'll shoot for taller boots instead. I'd just thought I'd be safer if I can get both feet flat on the ground. I do agree the look is a tad bit duller with the bike being lower and hence leveled looking. I do prefer the back seat slanting towards the front wheel look.
Kikn
Thanks every1 for the feed back. I'll shoot for taller boots instead. I'd just thought I'd be safer if I can get both feet flat on the ground. I do agree the look is a tad bit duller with the bike being lower and hence leveled looking. I do prefer the back seat slanting towards the front wheel look.
Kikn
#13
08-04-2007, 01:32 AM
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RE: A little help pls
hey kikn, look i agree and disagree with some of this stuff. do what you want to do and own the bike you want to own. will doing all of this that you need to ruin the full potential of the bikes handling? yes it will. but you said your new to the scene so the chances of you seeing the full potentila of the bikes handling anytime soon is real small. 16 inch wheels will absolutely ruin the bike. if at all possible you can try to use one foot at stops. my wife and i both have 07 600 rr's. this is my 12th bike and my wifes first. the bike is timid enough to learn on when you want it to be.
knightslugger- i agree with dragonium25 that you know your stuff. no doubt there, but is it necessary to make someone feel like a total moron? im sure there are things out there that you've gotten yourself into that you knew nothing about. some caused you issues some didnt. its all about learning from your mistakes. relax a little brother. try to give your advice without being so harsh. all of us here are either motorcyclists or want to be one. its a great thing to be one and it should make people proud that everyone wants to be one. but in the same token thanks for your passion slugger.
also if you are a newbie take everyones advice and put it in your "tool bag" pull the tool out if it works for you, dont pull it out if it doesnt. but remember we warned you. and last but not least if you ask for advice dont get mad if someone gives some advice you dont necessarily like. you asked for advice and not everyone is tactfull in their responce.
knightslugger- i agree with dragonium25 that you know your stuff. no doubt there, but is it necessary to make someone feel like a total moron? im sure there are things out there that you've gotten yourself into that you knew nothing about. some caused you issues some didnt. its all about learning from your mistakes. relax a little brother. try to give your advice without being so harsh. all of us here are either motorcyclists or want to be one. its a great thing to be one and it should make people proud that everyone wants to be one. but in the same token thanks for your passion slugger.
also if you are a newbie take everyones advice and put it in your "tool bag" pull the tool out if it works for you, dont pull it out if it doesnt. but remember we warned you. and last but not least if you ask for advice dont get mad if someone gives some advice you dont necessarily like. you asked for advice and not everyone is tactfull in their responce.
#14
08-04-2007, 04:22 AM
RE: A little help pls
Again, I have to chime in. You bought a brand new bike (an INCREDIBLE handling 07 600RR) that Honda spent MILLIONS of dollars to make handle like that, and you completely axed all of that the second you put on the drop kit.
I don't mean to sound brash, mean, or irritated (I really don't). So I'm just going to say it.
When you sat on the bike at the dealer, did you ever think that maybe it was too big of a bike for you? Again.....I really don't mean to sound like an ***, but if you are short, you probably would have been better off with a bike that didn't have the highest seat height in it's class. Hell, I'm 6' 1" and sometimes, If I sit a little further back, I can't flat-foot my 06 600RR with both feet. All you have to do is have one foot on the ground. (which, you'll be doing anyway since your right foot is supposed to stay on the rear brake anyway.)
So I have to agree with Dragonium and Knightslugger here. (and hope that Fretless doesn't show up on here and find this thread.
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By the way, most of us are "sexually-frustrated, pissed off at the world, hates everyone equal" type of people on here......so don't take our "making you feel like crap" too seriously.
I don't mean to sound brash, mean, or irritated (I really don't). So I'm just going to say it.
When you sat on the bike at the dealer, did you ever think that maybe it was too big of a bike for you? Again.....I really don't mean to sound like an ***, but if you are short, you probably would have been better off with a bike that didn't have the highest seat height in it's class. Hell, I'm 6' 1" and sometimes, If I sit a little further back, I can't flat-foot my 06 600RR with both feet. All you have to do is have one foot on the ground. (which, you'll be doing anyway since your right foot is supposed to stay on the rear brake anyway.)
So I have to agree with Dragonium and Knightslugger here. (and hope that Fretless doesn't show up on here and find this thread.
)By the way, most of us are "sexually-frustrated, pissed off at the world, hates everyone equal" type of people on here......so don't take our "making you feel like crap" too seriously.
#15
08-04-2007, 04:35 AM
RE: A little help pls
I love the way the CBR's look, was gonna buy the slimmer 1000cc R1 (R6 was too wide and big) but the sales guy convince me to go slow and try the 600cc first for a first timer 
Only bike I like in the shop was the Suzuki Ninja, Yamaha R1 and the CBR 600rr. All others were too ugly looking.
Anything less than a 600cc I'd go a Super Pocket Rocket 110cc @ 70mph.
How does lowering the bike kill the speed or performance since it is still the same 600cc engine? I know it kills the look a bit, aye.
Only bike I like in the shop was the Suzuki Ninja, Yamaha R1 and the CBR 600rr. All others were too ugly looking.
Anything less than a 600cc I'd go a Super Pocket Rocket 110cc @ 70mph.
How does lowering the bike kill the speed or performance since it is still the same 600cc engine? I know it kills the look a bit, aye.
#16
08-04-2007, 04:45 AM
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RE: A little help pls
lowering the bike doesnt kill the speed, and in all actuality it gives more stability for high speeds, and helps keep the wheel planted for hard launches on a drag strip, but it messes with the rake and trail of the bike which in turn messes with the handling. also it takes away from the cornering clearance. if the bike didnt have an electronic steering dampner on it already you would really be able to see where it harms the handling characteristics of the bike. the bike would be twitchy and unstable in corners.
#17
08-04-2007, 09:31 AM
RE: A little help pls
suzuki Ninja, huh? dear oh dear...
look, you've got that typical American mentality about motorcycles. bigger engine = better, sexier looking = better. you've got no idea. 20 years ago, the fastest, most uninsurable motorcycle in the supersport world was the CBR600 weighing in at about 87 HP. what's changed? 20 hp, ridiculously sharp steering rake (The bike has electronic steering damper for a reason, it's naturally unstable during cornering with it's 23.7* rake. the only other bike below 24* is the triumph 675, and that has one too...), lighter weight, more ridged frames, and high revving hyper responsive motors. any idiot can hold on to the handles bars in a straight line. $500 says i could ride Stoner's MotoGP bike in a straight line. when you start turning, that's when you get into all kinds of trouble, and i'm not just talking about the bike. new riders like yourself have enough to worry about while riding to concern yourself with supersport riding characteristics second to second. riders like you often crash do to their own mistakes, and he mistake they made was exacerbated by the supersport motorcycle they were riding.
you're in it for the looks. i know you are. you want to be able to say "I've got a motorcycle. it's extremely fast". i know your type. i see a lot of your "class" crash... there's a list of all the 600rr.net riders who have purchased the 2007 CBR600 for first bikes and have crashed. it's a big list. we're trying to set you in the right direction for starting out riding the smart way. you're on a path the has a pretty high tenancy to end badly. if it's one thing i've learned from riding it's that no one really cares what bike you're on. if it's got two wheels, you're in. i hope that struck a cord with you. i hate to see you go down and have your ego bashed in by some angry ******* on the internet who told you it'd happen...
look, you've got that typical American mentality about motorcycles. bigger engine = better, sexier looking = better. you've got no idea. 20 years ago, the fastest, most uninsurable motorcycle in the supersport world was the CBR600 weighing in at about 87 HP. what's changed? 20 hp, ridiculously sharp steering rake (The bike has electronic steering damper for a reason, it's naturally unstable during cornering with it's 23.7* rake. the only other bike below 24* is the triumph 675, and that has one too...), lighter weight, more ridged frames, and high revving hyper responsive motors. any idiot can hold on to the handles bars in a straight line. $500 says i could ride Stoner's MotoGP bike in a straight line. when you start turning, that's when you get into all kinds of trouble, and i'm not just talking about the bike. new riders like yourself have enough to worry about while riding to concern yourself with supersport riding characteristics second to second. riders like you often crash do to their own mistakes, and he mistake they made was exacerbated by the supersport motorcycle they were riding.
you're in it for the looks. i know you are. you want to be able to say "I've got a motorcycle. it's extremely fast". i know your type. i see a lot of your "class" crash... there's a list of all the 600rr.net riders who have purchased the 2007 CBR600 for first bikes and have crashed. it's a big list. we're trying to set you in the right direction for starting out riding the smart way. you're on a path the has a pretty high tenancy to end badly. if it's one thing i've learned from riding it's that no one really cares what bike you're on. if it's got two wheels, you're in. i hope that struck a cord with you. i hate to see you go down and have your ego bashed in by some angry ******* on the internet who told you it'd happen...
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08-04-2007, 10:40 AM
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08-04-2007, 12:59 PM
#20
08-04-2007, 01:06 PM
RE: A little help pls
ORIGINAL: Kikn
First time I rode a bike was when I rode this bike home August 2, 2007. Scary!
Any suggestions, tips, etc is much apprciated.
First time I rode a bike was when I rode this bike home August 2, 2007. Scary!
Any suggestions, tips, etc is much apprciated.
Wow, that's a SERIOUS bike to be learning on. Be super careful, the urge to punch it can be overwhelming sometimes and those curves come at you in a hurry. Read up and learn about "target fixation." It's a real bitch!
Have you ridden dirtbikes or anything?